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Throws the centre backs under the bus. Way to go Kenny!

Welcome to Bocco island Connor Wood.

"We look like an under 23s group at times and that won't win games in League 2"

Well you signed 3 more of them during the window... or did you?

That's at least the third interview he's said the same thing about being too young and not enough experience. Who's he making that point to, us fans or the board?

I’ll give the benefit of doubt and say the board

Why bring in KJ with all his experience and then dictate who he signs?

There maybe an agenda as to what the board want “build for the future” or “keep the wages lowish” but who comes through the door must be down to KJ

Kenny Jackett will be sacked after next Saturday's defeat against Salford

He is always Honest
Which is what I like about him .

People can challenge performance tactics etc
But you can't say he doesn't say how it is .

If the board spend more we get more .
We can't spend Big in 1 year so it has to be done
With PATIENCE .

As for sacking him

How many managers/coaches would it be since Hearn left , 20 ?

Stick with him
It WILL come right for us but be PATIENT .

Kenny is an experienced manager. If any of our January signings were against his wishes he shouldn’t have accepted it. People are now beginning to think he’s passed his sell by date

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:01 am Kenny is an experienced manager. If any of our January signings were against his wishes he shouldn’t have accepted it. People are now beginning to think he’s passed his sell by date

Will he appear at the next game with a yellow label on him?

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:20 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:01 am Kenny is an experienced manager. If any of our January signings were against his wishes he shouldn’t have accepted it. People are now beginning to think he’s passed his sell by date

Will he appear at the next game with a yellow label on him?

Ahem Smed

I hope you aren't referring too
No you can't be
Forgive me for thinking that

I was referring to the yellow reduced price labels put on food items in the day of their best before date. What were you thinking it was?

I started to think of something yellow
People were made to wear once ,

Never having worked in food retail
My retail experience always had a Red & white label for clearance .

Glad I realised it was you & knew there would be a more than acceptable explanation .

The issue here is that we have seven first teamers injured. It’s fine to say get more in but you still have to pay wages for the injured. This isn’t Football Manager or FIFA.

You then of course have an issue when people are back that we have a bloated squad and therefore have no movement. It’s a difficult situation right now and I think we all just need to calm down a little.

At this time those available for loan or transfer are either not playing or will want a contract.

KJ is under the pump and I don’t think any other manager could do better under the circumstances.

"A lot of hard work went into that defeat"

I’m just gonna say it KJ isn’t the problem
at the club if he was allowed to manage and
bring his own players in we’d be in a lot
healthy place ..
If KJ goes we’ll only in the same position pre
Fletcher or RE getting the job, whilst we
missed an opportunity getting Adams in, he
was allowed totally unfashionable Morecambe to
league one ..

Who knew injuries happen in the winter months? Or that, with a pandemic going on, we might get illnesses? The fact is, the first 11 were alright and could have possibly got us into the playoffs, but the squad was paper thin from day one. This was always going to happen, wasn't it?

Excuses about the squad sort of fall on deaf ears when we have players like Wood, brought in to be first choice, who's nowhere to be seen. Wouldn't be surprised if we dont see Smith for a while either...

I think any professional football team with seven first teamers out is going to see a downturn in results. We’ve been really unlucky.

You’re right it’s not the only reason but personally I think it’s the main reason.

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:52 am I’m just gonna say it KJ isn’t the problem
at the club if he was allowed to manage and
bring his own players in we’d be in a lot
healthy place ..
If KJ goes we’ll only in the same position pre
Fletcher or RE getting the job, whilst we
missed an opportunity getting Adams in, he
was allowed totally unfashionable Morecambe to
league one ..

Morecambe Currently in a relegation spot .

If the budget is so tight and limited
why waste it on Frank from Colchester when
we have Ruel sitting in the bench all season ?..

Also when we once had a decent midfield of
Hales, Castle and Howard if any of these players
got injured or were out of form ( which never
happened with these 3), we’d always have a
Steve Baker or Kenny Achmapong to jump in
there place ...... it was called competition for
places

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:26 am

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:52 am I’m just gonna say it KJ isn’t the problem
at the club if he was allowed to manage and
bring his own players in we’d be in a lot
healthy place ..
If KJ goes we’ll only in the same position pre
Fletcher or RE getting the job, whilst we
missed an opportunity getting Adams in, he
was allowed totally unfashionable Morecambe to
league one ..

Morecambe Currently in a relegation spot .

Last time I looked he wasn’t there manager
anymore................

DrWindy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:21 am I think any professional football team with seven first teamers out is going to see a downturn in results. We’ve been really unlucky.

You’re right it’s not the only reason but personally I think it’s the main reason.

Agree, noted that Dulcet Dave said on the commentary he'd never known a season like it for injuries/ long termers too, and it just got worse last night with Happe, and both young recent signings were missing too.

Any Orient side in distant memory would have struggled with all of our injuries. Castle, Hales were decent of course and I agree our midfield needed strengthening but any side would be in trouble. Even a top Arsenal or United side of recent years would not cope well losing seven first teamers.

If we want players we either have to offer them a decent contract (like Khan I assume) or we go after a Nouble and say win yourself a contract you’re finished at Colchester. Or we gamble on some youngsters and hope they are good enough.

We have been unlucky.

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:30 am If the budget is so tight and limited
why waste it on Frank from Colchester when
we have Ruel sitting in the bench all season ?..

Also when we once had a decent midfield of
Hales, Castle and Howard if any of these players
got injured or were out of form ( which never
happened with these 3), we’d always have a
Steve Baker or Kenny Achmapong to jump in
there place ...... it was called competition for
places

Not convinced Ruel is the answer. Not a target man, and doesn't hold the ball up. Feeds off scraps and we aren't making any.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:31 pm ....

If the board spend more we get more .
....

Yep , more DEBT, more risk of following in footsteps of Bury, Macclesfield etc. Orient have been there recently and its not pleasant

Frogger wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:20 pm Why bring in KJ with all his experience and then dictate who he signs?

There maybe an agenda as to what the board want “build for the future” or “keep the wages lowish” but who comes through the door must be down to KJ

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