Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:05 pm How did the "player that nobody has ever heard of from a team at the bottom of the conference with only a handful of games under his belt" do today?

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:07 pm I just said perhaps they will turn out ok. Not the point. They are low risk (cheap) low reward signings.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:03 pm We keep being told there are funds available and the board always sound very bullish about new signings but we don’t ever seem to bring in the quality needed. We are crying out for a marque signing (for our level) in the middle of midfield and yet we bring in a kid who can’t get near Derby’s first team and a player that nobody has ever heard of from a team at the bottom of the conference with only a handful of games under his belt. Perhaps they will turn out ok but it’s just a punt as it always seems to be with this club. The new right back looks like a deer caught in headlights. Everyone signs players so just bringing in bodies is not a reason to rejoice. They need to improve us. Is it the board that talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Is it ling. Is jacket the head of the snake? You decide but I for one am fed up. Can anyone say it’s been a successful transfer window and the club is going all out for promotion. Away from the signings the football is dire. Grim.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:03 pm We keep being told there are funds available and the board always sound very bullish about new signings but we don’t ever seem to bring in the quality needed. We are crying out for a marque signing (for our level) in the middle of midfield and yet we bring in a kid who can’t get near Derby’s first team and a player that nobody has ever heard of from a team at the bottom of the conference with only a handful of games under his belt. Perhaps they will turn out ok but it’s just a punt as it always seems to be with this club. The new right back looks like a deer caught in headlights. Everyone signs players so just bringing in bodies is not a reason to rejoice. They need to improve us. Is it the board that talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Is it ling. Is jacket the head of the snake? You decide but I for one am fed up. Can anyone say it’s been a successful transfer window and the club is going all out for promotion. Away from the signings the football is dire. Grim.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:18 pm No proven , quality players at this level or above brought in means no promotion.
All the talk of funds being made available is a joke, same old same old.Supporters are sick to the back teeth with talking the talk but not being able to walk the walk.
Someone’s head has to roll.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:13 pm Whilst I’m not giving up on the season quiet yet (but it’s not far off), the board do seriously need to bang some heads together and really consider what the plan is for next season.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:20 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:18 pm No proven , quality players at this level or above brought in means no promotion.
All the talk of funds being made available is a joke, same old same old.Supporters are sick to the back teeth with talking the talk but not being able to walk the walk.
Someone’s head has to roll.

If Jackett goes then surely Ling has to? Bloke must be a cat with all the lives he has.

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:36 am It’s a real subjective matter the set up
I think they have set up the administration / management of this club like a corporate company with a very large franchise model this
is slightly wrong.
Personally I would of gone back to a different template along time ago.
I would not of paid for a CEO. I don’t know the metrics they use to justify that expenditure but lofc could off still sought sponsorship without him.
I would not of had ML as a DOF for as long as we have- women football / transfers / management of women and academy could of been re distributed across others - particularly the excel spreadsheet which ML is so proud off.
Those two salaries with employment costs will be I assume over 200k easily
That sum could of gone into the playing staff with the duties distributed to others
We are a lower league club with moderate attendance level-and they talk about sustainability! Budgeting for a loss
The ratio of non playing overheads appear too much in principle
When you get a manager of KJ ability the club are going good to attract that person
The performance level in terms of points do not reflect the ability of players and manager so something is wrong

All the committees for transfers is over the top too much talking to the fans about how / why / when and the Red green amber rubbish
Too much external talk and justification

Keep the club simple the management structure lean and put the funds into the first team
Then branch out on all the other stuff
- new media room
- non player staff
- academy growth
- roof expenditure possible
Etc

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:03 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 am

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:36 am It’s a real subjective matter the set up
I think they have set up the administration / management of this club like a corporate company with a very large franchise model this
is slightly wrong.
Personally I would of gone back to a different template along time ago.
I would not of paid for a CEO. I don’t know the metrics they use to justify that expenditure but lofc could off still sought sponsorship without him.
I would not of had ML as a DOF for as long as we have- women football / transfers / management of women and academy could of been re distributed across others - particularly the excel spreadsheet which ML is so proud off.
Those two salaries with employment costs will be I assume over 200k easily
That sum could of gone into the playing staff with the duties distributed to others
We are a lower league club with moderate attendance level-and they talk about sustainability! Budgeting for a loss
The ratio of non playing overheads appear too much in principle
When you get a manager of KJ ability the club are going good to attract that person
The performance level in terms of points do not reflect the ability of players and manager so something is wrong

All the committees for transfers is over the top too much talking to the fans about how / why / when and the Red green amber rubbish
Too much external talk and justification

Keep the club simple the management structure lean and put the funds into the first team
Then branch out on all the other stuff
- new media room
- non player staff
- academy growth
- roof expenditure possible
Etc

Put your money where your keyboard fingers are then
Buy the club & implement what you see as right

Tuff you old cock sparrow - that’s one stupid answer.
If I sold my home and the savings etc I could not raise the millions one would need
However I guess no other supporter could to
I assume neither could Nigel or some of the other investors - that’s why as a group they could afford the inflated price the Italian squeezed from Nigel - knowing Nigel actually cares for the club and his intellectually impaired brain did not
Not having the funds does not mean one is a dead / dumb / blind / stooge with no views

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:09 am Tuffers
You are a very confusing person on here
Be exact in your critical comments - I have not got the propensity to comprehend where I am insulting - apart from my summary of the Italian idiot.
As you regularly post every time I
post on here I be enlightened to understand what the heck you are saying

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:24 am I can understand bringing in young players with potential and developing them . The problem is they are not going to get us promoted this season. They are investments for the future . What's the point of bringing in a manager like KJ and only signing kids . it's been the board who's been talking about ambition and promotion but it's not going to happen this season without some real quality being brought in before the window closes .