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Why couldn’t he speak like this in the past. Calm, concise and truthful? Virtually agree with everything he says in this piece.

It’s just because you are blinkered and he happens to be talking about something you agree with.

Same for many other Tory voters unfortunately. He’s almost always been right in hindsight but no one wanted to listen because of identity politics and shutting out anything that wasn’t part of their current view

Is a smart man, shame its a popularity contest the no campagain warned everyone about the implications of brexit too then they were shocked when it happened.
Voters arn't smart.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:16 pm Why couldn’t he speak like this in the past. Calm, concise and truthful? Virtually agree with everything he says in this piece.

He’s always spoken calmly, concisely and truthfully. And as history has proven time and time and time again, he’s nearly always right.

Now f*** off and get back to cheering on Boris.

I love the JC/Obi Wan crochet doll with the poppy, by the way. Where can i get one?

Corbyn is a vile and obnoxious human being, thank God he never became PM

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:16 pm Why couldn’t he speak like this in the past. Calm, concise and truthful? Virtually agree with everything he says in this piece.

Is your next thread about Judd & Ling ?

Concentrate on the incompetent Johnson !!

At his best when he's a protest politician. Not a leader of people unfortunately.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:40 am At his best when he's a protest politician. Not a leader of people unfortunately.

Exactly. We need our betters from Eton as leaders, not these ordinary joes.

Corbyn can be ignored by the media and establishment again, now he no longer represents a perceived ‘threat’ to the status quo. But you can imagine the headlines if he was still Labour boss: ‘Jezza backs Anti-Vaxers whilst tens of thousands die!’.

As so often, he has a point, but it’s easy to twist his words and the nuance in what he says gets lost on the dumbed down.

PutneyO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:34 am Corbyn is a vile and obnoxious human being, thank God he never became PM

Corbyn is many things, but not vile. Being obnoxious is an opinion - I can't tell you that he's not obnoxious While my politics more aligns with him than it does with Keir Starmer or Ed Milliband (who would be described as the 'soft left') - I don't always agree with Corbyn. Corbyn wasn't necessarily the man to lead the Labour party because a) he didn't even want it in the first place, b) the media was always going to smear and destroy him, c) he focuses too much on international issues - which is a huge turn off for the electorate, and isn't politically astute enough to build a coalition within the Lab party. He is many things, but vile is not one of them. He is adored in his constituency and is a compassionate human being, rare in politics, and usually something that will do you a disservice if you undertake a career in politics.

Not a single person who professes to hate or dislike him can come up with a single evidence backed reason why they believe him to be 'vile' - Vile for me is having the power to change lives for the better and deciding to vote against progress. His voting record is always on the side of making people's lives better. The same cannot be said of most of the Labour party and almost the entirety of the Conservative party.