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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

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Max B Gold wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:33 am
FrankOFile wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:18 am
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:02 pm

How do you feel about that?
I suppose that is our fault too.
Don't take it so personally.
I never take attempts to dominate personally.
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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

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FrankOFile wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:31 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:33 am
FrankOFile wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:18 am

I suppose that is our fault too.
Don't take it so personally.
I never take attempts to dominate personally.
So dohnut !
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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

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If the emerging evidence on OSINT channels is correct, the tankies may be a tad disappointed with how things appear to be unfolding on the battlefield.

UA paying a heavy price, but it looks like they are making good progress towards Mariupol. If they take that then that's it for RU logistics.
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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

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Dunners wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:52 pm If the emerging evidence on OSINT channels is correct, the tankies may be a tad disappointed with how things appear to be unfolding on the battlefield.

UA paying a heavy price, but it looks like they are making good progress towards Mariupol. If they take that then that's it for RU logistics.
What about a Russian counter offensive against the Ukraine offensive? They must have built up reserves/strong defences in the last 6 months and they have air superiority. Don't get me wrong I want to see the Russians driven out but I'm thinking stalemate at this stage.
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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

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Dunners wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:52 pm If the emerging evidence on OSINT channels is correct, the tankies may be a tad disappointed with how things appear to be unfolding on the battlefield.

UA paying a heavy price, but it looks like they are making good progress towards Mariupol. If they take that then that's it for RU logistics.
It would annexe Crimea. Tall order, but wouldn't bet against it.

Wonder how the Wagner group not agreeing to sign Putin's contract will play out
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No room for faint hearts. Ukraine needs time

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Bit late with this, but reports yesterday of Ukrainian forces crossing the Dnipro River could be highly significant. May put Crimea into play
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:53 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:43 pm Putin moving nukes to Belarus.
Who cares . If they are mad enough to use them then that will be the last thing they will ever do . No winners in a nuclear confrontation , only losers . Anyway what's the difference between that and having American nukes stationed on British soil .?
LOL yeah who cares about the whole of Europe being wiped out? Saddos!
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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

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Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:21 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:53 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:43 pm Putin moving nukes to Belarus.
Who cares . If they are mad enough to use them then that will be the last thing they will ever do . No winners in a nuclear confrontation , only losers . Anyway what's the difference between that and having American nukes stationed on British soil .?
LOL yeah who cares about the whole of Europe being wiped out? Saddos!

The way discussion is currently conducted on this board, I fully expect his response to be “I never said ‘who cares’”
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Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:21 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:53 am
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:43 pm Putin moving nukes to Belarus.
Who cares . If they are mad enough to use them then that will be the last thing they will ever do . No winners in a nuclear confrontation , only losers . Anyway what's the difference between that and having American nukes stationed on British soil .?
LOL yeah who cares about the whole of Europe being wiped out? Saddos!
It's either the climate or nukes that will do us in. Might as well go for the quick option.
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It could get a bit spicy if Russia does implode. Best outcome may be for a military coup, as they'd be the least worst option for control of the nukes.

If it looks like any of the private military groups or crime gangs are within a chance of getting them then we could have the prospect of NATO, Iran, India, Japan, China, Kazakhstan, the Taliban, Chechens et al having to decide on whether to invade and seize them. Imagine that lot all stumbling about within Russia's borders and stepping in each other's toes whilst engaging in a shooting match with the various competing Russian forces?
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Looks like interest on here has waned.

An interesting piece here on why the war has to end.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... righteous/
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Max B Gold wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:11 pm Looks like interest on here has waned.

An interesting piece here on why the war has to end.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... righteous/
Would he say that if his own country were invaded?
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Milano wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:44 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:11 pm Looks like interest on here has waned.

An interesting piece here on why the war has to end.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... righteous/
Would he say that if his own country were invaded?
Who knows. Can we stick to dealing what he has said and not unknowns.
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He's not saying anything that hasn't already been raised and countered in this thread.
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The same Craig Murray who said the Salisbury poisoning was the work of Israel not Russia. That Craig Murray….
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Dunners wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:18 am He's not saying anything that hasn't already been raised and countered in this thread.
But the special operation is almost 18 months further on and Ukraine isn't going to win.

Is he right to argue for peace talks or should the war be escalated with NATO intervention?
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Take down the blue and yellow, it clashes with the sunset.
And put it in the attic with the Emperors new clothes.

Interesting article

https://www.conter.scot/2023/8/21/why-d ... raine-war/
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Ukraine is an American client state, ever since they ousted Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, & a pro Western leader was put in his place
Ukraine isnt a democracy. Democracies dont arrest opposition Mp's, nor do they ban media with opposing views, both of which Ukraine has done.
The war will end when America wants it too, and only then.

Im no fan of Putin, believe me, but America is the real bad guy in this war, once again
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is the 'media with opposing views' Russia Today?
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Long slender neck wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:41 am is the 'media with opposing views' Russia Today?
No........ Ukraine media, that's critical of Zelenskyy
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ComeOnYouOs wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:31 am Ukraine is an American client state, ever since they ousted Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, & a pro Western leader was put in his place
Ukraine isnt a democracy. Democracies dont arrest opposition Mp's, nor do they ban media with opposing views, both of which Ukraine has done.
The war will end when America wants it too, and only then.

Im no fan of Putin, believe me, but America is the real bad guy in this war, once again
" Democracies don't arrest opposition MP''s .. Do you mean like the Democrats in America going after their main Republican rival ?
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This thread makes me fear for democracy insofar as some people really shouldn’t be able to vote
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:41 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:31 am Ukraine is an American client state, ever since they ousted Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, & a pro Western leader was put in his place
Ukraine isnt a democracy. Democracies dont arrest opposition Mp's, nor do they ban media with opposing views, both of which Ukraine has done.
The war will end when America wants it too, and only then.

Im no fan of Putin, believe me, but America is the real bad guy in this war, once again
" Democracies don't arrest opposition MP''s .. Do you mean like the Democrats in America going after their main Republican rival ?
Are you referring to the American judicial system investigating alleged criminal behaviour by an ex-President? Because that isn't what you've described above.
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CEB wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 2:01 pm This thread makes me fear for democracy insofar as some people really shouldn’t be able to vote
Or procreate
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