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Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:03 pm**

In an official capacity please state why
we either choose to play that game today
or were informed by the EFL that we had
to play it ..
I’ll accept the defeat as our away performances
generally have been poor this season but to go
into today’s game with only 3 outfield subs, one
of which hasn’t started a league game and another
who has been injured most of the season ..
If the club want to be serious about achieving promotion
then you can’t go into a game with 3 subs and missing
senior players ..
Most teams are able to get there fixtures postponed and
yet we choose to play a crucial fixture with literally our
barebones..

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 pm**

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:03 pm In an official capacity please state why
we either choose to play that game today
or were informed by the EFL that we had
to play it ..
I’ll accept the defeat as our away performances
generally have been poor this season but to go
into today’s game with only 3 outfield subs, one
of which hasn’t started a league game and another
who has been injured most of the season ..
If the club want to be serious about achieving promotion
then you can’t go into a game with 3 subs and missing
senior players ..
Most teams are able to get there fixtures postponed and
yet we choose to play a crucial fixture with literally our
barebones..

Excellent point. It's really frustrating .

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 pm**

The club tweeted that it didn’t meet the requirements for being postponed, whatever they are. So the club sounds like it tried.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:07 pm**

Maybe we did not have enough Covid related absentees.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:08 pm**

I presume we only had two senior squad players out with Covid. A different question, given the size of PL squads, is how most of their games were postponed.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:46 pm**

The requirements are that you have 14 players available.

Danny Mac already had a sitmf with someone on twitter for suggesting the club were naive.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:30 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:46 pm The requirements are that you have 14 players available.

Danny Mac already had a sitmf with someone on twitter for suggesting the club were naive.

Link please

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:45 pm**

Good old Danny not afraid to front up

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:47 pm**

Nice one Danny

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:00 pm**

If it were another club I reckon one or two more mystery injuries would've been found to avoid playing the game

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:00 pm If it were another club I reckon one or two more mystery injuries would've been found to avoid playing the game

Spot on ..

Why all of a sudden make Smyth available
when he’s been out all season ..

It seems the kind of decision making you’d
see over the marshes on a Sunday morning,
When you’d turn up with a bare 11 and know
there’s no chance of a sub coming on ...

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:43 pm**

Let's just get on with the season, as fans/supporters give KJ, the players and Board our 110% support and get promotion.

If the mad Italian had been in-charge during this pandemic, our club would be no more, so I'll give KJ, ML, Big Nige and his associates every bit of support I can. I may not agree with their actions, but I'll support them, I want us in the Championship.

COYOs

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm**

The bottom line is, the defeat today has probably put an end to our hopes of automatic promotion and even a play off place

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:43 pm**

Dont be silly, we've half a season left.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:08 am**

PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm The bottom line is, the defeat today has probably put an end to our hopes of automatic promotion and even a play off place

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:11 am**

Mr. Peanutbutter wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:08 am
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm The bottom line is, the defeat today has probably put an end to our hopes of automatic promotion and even a play off place

is that next to the bullsh*t button ?

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am**

“Little Leyton Orient” - original poster is spot on to raise this issue.
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season and given the current environment will be missing on a regular basis.
Point re Smyth is absolutely spot on - the numbers don’t add up to deny this??
It’s as though we chose to play the game and the result has totally backfired on us. 3 games until we get reinforcements, not exactly setting ourselves up for that final half push. It was a game that in hindsight we could not afford to play/LOSE

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:10 am**

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:00 pm If it were another club I reckon one or two more mystery injuries would've been found to avoid playing the game

In which case we'd have likely faced action for not fulfilling the fixture. Then because you slate everything the club does you'd be going after them because of that.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:41 am**

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am “Little Leyton Orient” - original poster is spot on to raise this issue.
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season and given the current environment will be missing on a regular basis.
Point re Smyth is absolutely spot on - the numbers don’t add up to deny this??
It’s as though we chose to play the game and the result has totally backfired on us. 3 games until we get reinforcements, not exactly setting ourselves up for that final half push. It was a game that in hindsight we could not afford to play/LOSE

You seem to think we can just choose to call off a game and the league will just say "Ok lads, that's fine" without looking into the circumstances further or wanting evidence. That wouldnt be the case, especially if Tranmere objected.

The point about Smyth is not spot on. Had he been injured/unavailable then we'd have still had the minimum number of players needed for the game but given ourselves even more of a handicap.

What does "It's as if they chose to play the game" mean? We don't just pick and choose what games we want to play and avoid the ones we don't fancy.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am**

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season

Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:43 am**

Who was actually missing with covid pings? Theo and ?

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:51 am**

Maybe it would be an astute move by the club when the January window opens to only bring in players that have been fully vaccinated.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:56 am**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am
Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season
Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

As it seems that only 3 jabs has a chance of stopping infection with Omicron, players not jabbed won't be protected until well into the New Year

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:01 am**

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:56 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am
Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season
Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.
As it seems that only 3 jabs has a chance of stopping infection with Omicron, players not jabbed won't be protected until well into the New Year

If they’re not vaccinated at all now, we’re potentially f*cked for the rest of the season.

As harsh as it sounds, it is practical to only consider vaccinated players in January.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:05 am**

Funnily enough just heard Jurgen Klopp on the radio saying he will only sign fully vaccinated players in January.

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