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jamespevans wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:14 pm Agree with these ratings. We were nowhere as good in the second half, and didn't need to be. because we have a manager who knows how to manage a 3-0 lead . Starting to thoroughly enjoy this season.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:04 pm Vigouroux. 6.5. literally nothing to do. Nothing. Zero. Zilch.
James 8. MOM. Hard to overstate how important fullbacks are in the modern game. We finally have two good ones. Some lovely crosses.
Wood. 7. Worked hard. Did leave some space in behind a couple of times.
Mitchell. 8. I love this guy already. Tough as old boots. Great positional sense. He will play for millwall in the championship. No doubt.
Beccles. 7.5. Great signing. 7 or 8 every week.
Happe. 6. Switches off too often.
Pratley. 7.5. One of those players you love to have in your team and would hate if he played for the oppo. Wound them up good and proper first half
Clay. 6.5. Being a tad generous as he is limited but when you are winning 3-0 away from home he must be doing something right. Does a job.
Archibald. 8. Great goal. Didn’t stop running.
Drinan. 7. Another who doesn’t stop running and it’s this constant pressing that other teams just can’t cope with. We are so fit.
Smith. 7. Goal. Played ok, would still like to see him be a bit more aggressive as he is such a unit.

Ogie. 6: gave away a stupid pen.

Jacket. 8. We have a manager and assistant who should be managing in the championship or upper league one. It’s the key to everything. Everyone knows their job and we look so comfortable. Wondering who I would like to see drop down from the championship for next season.

Rovers. 5. Awful. Wasn’t the best game generally with not a lot of football and plenty of stop starts but they offered nothing.

Ref. 5. Got about 5 bookings.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:30 pm

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:04 pm Vigouroux. 6.5. literally nothing to do. Nothing. Zero. Zilch.
James 8. MOM. Hard to overstate how important fullbacks are in the modern game. We finally have two good ones. Some lovely crosses.
Wood. 7. Worked hard. Did leave some space in behind a couple of times.
Mitchell. 8. I love this guy already. Tough as old boots. Great positional sense. He will play for millwall in the championship. No doubt.
Beccles. 7.5. Great signing. 7 or 8 every week.
Happe. 6. Switches off too often.
Pratley. 7.5. One of those players you love to have in your team and would hate if he played for the oppo. Wound them up good and proper first half
Clay. 6.5. Being a tad generous as he is limited but when you are winning 3-0 away from home he must be doing something right. Does a job.
Archibald. 8. Great goal. Didn’t stop running.
Drinan. 7. Another who doesn’t stop running and it’s this constant pressing that other teams just can’t cope with. We are so fit.
Smith. 7. Goal. Played ok, would still like to see him be a bit more aggressive as he is such a unit.

Ogie. 6: gave away a stupid pen.

Jacket. 8. We have a manager and assistant who should be managing in the championship or upper league one. It’s the key to everything. Everyone knows their job and we look so comfortable. Wondering who I would like to see drop down from the championship for next season.

Rovers. 5. Awful. Wasn’t the best game generally with not a lot of football and plenty of stop starts but they offered nothing.

Ref. 5. Got about 5 bookings.

Yep, agreed with pretty much all of that. Would have struggled to pick a MOTM as so many good performances without anyone being outstanding but James is as good a shout as anyone, if only for the multiple assists.

Harsh on Wood. He wasn’t leaving the space, he’s a wing back, they just hid a couple of balls into that channel that Happe didn’t deal with.

Mitchell is getting better game by game. I’ve only just realised 3 at the back with wing backs was the plan all along - James and Wood are perfect for it - but we didn’t have the CBS to play it.

Pratley is immense. No one ever plays through us. Like, never, literally not even once. Teams are having to go long and wide.

Our fitness levels are remarkable.

We’re going up, absolutely no question.

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:14 pm Starting to thoroughly enjoy this season.

Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:24 pm Beautiful effort by one and all today. Mitchell my MOTM the lads a beast and plays like he’s 35. Hard to believe he’s still a teenager!

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:01 am

Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:24 pm Beautiful effort by one and all today. Mitchell my MOTM the lads a beast and plays like he’s 35. Hard to believe he’s still a teenager!

Apart from when 3-0, the ref blew up for an obnoxious challenge in the middle of the park and he boots the ball away, gets booked and has nearly all the second half to play.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:53 pm Bit tough on Clay. He had a good game. Nothing flashy, nothing spectacular. But solid.

James MOTM by some margin.

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:01 am

Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:24 pm Beautiful effort by one and all today. Mitchell my MOTM the lads a beast and plays like he’s 35. Hard to believe he’s still a teenager!

Apart from when 3-0, the ref blew up for an obnoxious challenge in the middle of the park and he boots the ball away, gets booked and has nearly all the second half to play.

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:49 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:53 pm Bit tough on Clay. He had a good game. Nothing flashy, nothing spectacular. But solid.

James MOTM by some margin.

Agree with above.
Clay is in the team for a good reason: hustle, bustle, toil and trouble for the opposition. Some fans should take some time out and recognise his worth.
KJ has him in the side, and that's good enough for me.

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:34 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:49 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:53 pm Bit tough on Clay. He had a good game. Nothing flashy, nothing spectacular. But solid.

James MOTM by some margin.

Agree with above.
Clay is in the team for a good reason: hustle, bustle, toil and trouble for the opposition. Some fans should take some time out and recognise his worth.
KJ has him in the side, and that's good enough for me.

Would prefer Kyprianou back in. He is more creative, can pick out a pass (not Clay's strong point) and can still do the hustle, bustle etc. His performance against a poor Southampton U23 team was outstanding midweek. What you can say about Jackett is that he is loyal and when things are going well is reluctant to change things. He also doesn't make a substitution just for the sake of it. Really thought Archibald needed to come off after his booking but late in the game he didn't chase down a Rovers player shepherding out a ball for a goal kick. Archibald, pre-booking, would have been harrying him.

B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:07 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:34 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:49 am
Agree with above.
Clay is in the team for a good reason: hustle, bustle, toil and trouble for the opposition. Some fans should take some time out and recognise his worth.
KJ has him in the side, and that's good enough for me.

Would prefer Kyprianou back in. He is more creative, can pick out a pass (not Clay's strong point) and can still do the hustle, bustle etc. His performance against a poor Southampton U23 team was outstanding midweek. What you can say about Jackett is that he is loyal and when things are going well is reluctant to change things. He also doesn't make a substitution just for the sake of it. Really thought Archibald needed to come off after his booking but late in the game he didn't chase down a Rovers player shepherding out a ball for a goal kick. Archibald, pre-booking, would have been harrying him.

Can’t pick a pass out ? It was Clays pass to James that allowed him to cross for the 3rd goal. Why would Jackett change a winning team, it’s only by playing the minutes they get the fitness, why substitute players when there’s no need eg3-0 up with no game for a week.

B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:07 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:34 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:49 am
Agree with above.
Clay is in the team for a good reason: hustle, bustle, toil and trouble for the opposition. Some fans should take some time out and recognise his worth.
KJ has him in the side, and that's good enough for me.

Would prefer Kyprianou back in. He is more creative, can pick out a pass (not Clay's strong point) and can still do the hustle, bustle etc. His performance against a poor Southampton U23 team was outstanding midweek. What you can say about Jackett is that he is loyal and when things are going well is reluctant to change things. He also doesn't make a substitution just for the sake of it. Really thought Archibald needed to come off after his booking but late in the game he didn't chase down a Rovers player shepherding out a ball for a goal kick. Archibald, pre-booking, would have been harrying him.

Can’t pick a pass out ? It was Clays pass to James that allowed him to cross for the 3rd goal. Why would Jackett change a winning team, it’s only by playing the minutes they get the fitness, why substitute players when there’s no need eg3-0 up with no game for a week.

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:19 pm

B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:07 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:34 am

Would prefer Kyprianou back in. He is more creative, can pick out a pass (not Clay's strong point) and can still do the hustle, bustle etc. His performance against a poor Southampton U23 team was outstanding midweek. What you can say about Jackett is that he is loyal and when things are going well is reluctant to change things. He also doesn't make a substitution just for the sake of it. Really thought Archibald needed to come off after his booking but late in the game he didn't chase down a Rovers player shepherding out a ball for a goal kick. Archibald, pre-booking, would have been harrying him.

Can’t pick a pass out ? It was Clays pass to James that allowed him to cross for the 3rd goal. Why would Jackett change a winning team, it’s only by playing the minutes they get the fitness, why substitute players when there’s no need eg3-0 up with no game for a week.

Not the hardest pass to pick out? I think we agree about Jacket's approach to substitutes. My only issue is Archibald chases everything down and there was always a possibility of him getting a second yellow.