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Good, glad it's not just me who doesn't get this. I'm seeing all sorts of people pipe up that what he's said is outrageous and he has to go but I just don't get it. I wouldn't go around claiming that Israel is fully responsible for these attempts to discredit Jezza without any evidence, but it's certainly a possibility.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 4:01 pm I struggle to understand how this comment is anti-Semitic.
As for being recorded and not being aware. Straight out of an episode of Yes Minister where Sir Humphrey made comments not realising the conversation wa still being recorded. Schoolboy stuff, like Gordon Browns bigot comment some time ago.
You can’t.EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:19 pm It seems in no doubt that Labour has a problem with anti-Semitism, but it’s also fair to say that one may criticise actions of the state of Israel without being anti-Semitic.
Why would you? Have they done anything genocidal recently?CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 6:25 pmYou can’t.EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:19 pm It seems in no doubt that Labour has a problem with anti-Semitism, but it’s also fair to say that one may criticise actions of the state of Israel without being anti-Semitic.
More likely the truth. Labour have boxed themselves into a corner over the issue in general. Under normal circumstances this type of comment wouldn’t raise an eyebrow but they are so sensitive to the issue and investigation they have gone to the opposite extreme to sort of show how seriously they take it. Jerk reaction in every sense.
Or they just don't like that he's mates with Hamas and his Stalinist fanboys hate Jews. It's interesting that Campbell gets booted out for voting Lib Dem but a Labour member in Lewisham was sharing holocaust memes/Hitler/generally anti-semitic stuff on Facebook is still a member.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:16 pm Thing is, this guy is probably right. Israel hate Corbyn mainly because he supports the Palestinians, and is critical of Israel.
Did anyone else see the documentary "The Lobby"?
This showed on s secretly filmed video, Israeli officials working for the State of Israel plotting to get rid of all politicians that are not sympathetic to Israel. It's worth a watch.... You can still access it via You Tube.
There's a famous bit where Joan Ryan MP, was bribed with a million quid to help Israel get rid of people who are critical of Israel.
The Israel lobby in the UK are, IMO far too powerful, including many MPs who seem to be more interested in Israel than they do Britain.
You can accuse Russia of anything, but accuse Israel, and you have a ton of bricks fall on you from a great height
Its not a trope or conspiracy theory when Israeli Embassy staff are caught on camera offering money to Labour Friends of Israel to disrupt the Labour Party. The man in question was quickly recalled to Israel.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:07 pmOr they just don't like that he's mates with Hamas and his Stalinist fanboys hate Jews. It's interesting that Campbell gets booted out for voting Lib Dem but a Labour member in Lewisham was sharing holocaust memes/Hitler/generally anti-semitic stuff on Facebook is still a member.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:16 pm Thing is, this guy is probably right. Israel hate Corbyn mainly because he supports the Palestinians, and is critical of Israel.
Did anyone else see the documentary "The Lobby"?
This showed on s secretly filmed video, Israeli officials working for the State of Israel plotting to get rid of all politicians that are not sympathetic to Israel. It's worth a watch.... You can still access it via You Tube.
There's a famous bit where Joan Ryan MP, was bribed with a million quid to help Israel get rid of people who are critical of Israel.
The Israel lobby in the UK are, IMO far too powerful, including many MPs who seem to be more interested in Israel than they do Britain.
You can accuse Russia of anything, but accuse Israel, and you have a ton of bricks fall on you from a great height
Peddling the trope of a conspiracy doesn't matter if you say Israel or Jew, it's one and the same. It's wrong and it's dangerous.
Your anti-Semitic post has been reported to the mods.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:27 pmIts not a trope or conspiracy theory when Israeli Embassy staff are caught on camera offering money to Labour Friends of Israel to disrupt the Labour Party. The man in question was quickly recalled to Israel.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:07 pmOr they just don't like that he's mates with Hamas and his Stalinist fanboys hate Jews. It's interesting that Campbell gets booted out for voting Lib Dem but a Labour member in Lewisham was sharing holocaust memes/Hitler/generally anti-semitic stuff on Facebook is still a member.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:16 pm Thing is, this guy is probably right. Israel hate Corbyn mainly because he supports the Palestinians, and is critical of Israel.
Did anyone else see the documentary "The Lobby"?
This showed on s secretly filmed video, Israeli officials working for the State of Israel plotting to get rid of all politicians that are not sympathetic to Israel. It's worth a watch.... You can still access it via You Tube.
There's a famous bit where Joan Ryan MP, was bribed with a million quid to help Israel get rid of people who are critical of Israel.
The Israel lobby in the UK are, IMO far too powerful, including many MPs who seem to be more interested in Israel than they do Britain.
You can accuse Russia of anything, but accuse Israel, and you have a ton of bricks fall on you from a great height
Peddling the trope of a conspiracy doesn't matter if you say Israel or Jew, it's one and the same. It's wrong and it's dangerous.
What is dangerous is putting out a dragnet and a well funded propoganda campaign to ensnare well meaning people who do not want to see US funded/ Israeli military might and theft of land crush a people who have been there all their lives and those generations before them.
Fine. At least you can't get me expelled from the Labour Party as I left in 1990. So Get it right up ye.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:39 pmYour anti-Semitic post has been reported to the mods.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:27 pmIts not a trope or conspiracy theory when Israeli Embassy staff are caught on camera offering money to Labour Friends of Israel to disrupt the Labour Party. The man in question was quickly recalled to Israel.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:07 pm
Or they just don't like that he's mates with Hamas and his Stalinist fanboys hate Jews. It's interesting that Campbell gets booted out for voting Lib Dem but a Labour member in Lewisham was sharing holocaust memes/Hitler/generally anti-semitic stuff on Facebook is still a member.
Peddling the trope of a conspiracy doesn't matter if you say Israel or Jew, it's one and the same. It's wrong and it's dangerous.
What is dangerous is putting out a dragnet and a well funded propoganda campaign to ensnare well meaning people who do not want to see US funded/ Israeli military might and theft of land crush a people who have been there all their lives and those generations before them.
There's also thisComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:16 pm Thing is, this guy is probably right. Israel hate Corbyn mainly because he supports the Palestinians, and is critical of Israel.
Did anyone else see the documentary "The Lobby"?
This showed on s secretly filmed video, Israeli officials working for the State of Israel plotting to get rid of all politicians that are not sympathetic to Israel. It's worth a watch.... You can still access it via You Tube.
There's a famous bit where Joan Ryan MP, was bribed with a million quid to help Israel get rid of people who are critical of Israel.
The Israel lobby in the UK are, IMO far too powerful, including many MPs who seem to be more interested in Israel than they do Britain.
You can accuse Russia of anything, but accuse Israel, and you have a ton of bricks fall on you from a great height
Its almost like Hodge has no political relevance within the Labour Party any more and is determined to use other means to either win it back or destroy it. Sometimes you wonder how strong her socialist beliefs were for a rich lady.Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:58 pmThere's also thisComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:16 pm Thing is, this guy is probably right. Israel hate Corbyn mainly because he supports the Palestinians, and is critical of Israel.
Did anyone else see the documentary "The Lobby"?
This showed on s secretly filmed video, Israeli officials working for the State of Israel plotting to get rid of all politicians that are not sympathetic to Israel. It's worth a watch.... You can still access it via You Tube.
There's a famous bit where Joan Ryan MP, was bribed with a million quid to help Israel get rid of people who are critical of Israel.
The Israel lobby in the UK are, IMO far too powerful, including many MPs who seem to be more interested in Israel than they do Britain.
You can accuse Russia of anything, but accuse Israel, and you have a ton of bricks fall on you from a great height
and this
or this
Anyone who looks at the facts honestly could not possibly say Labour has a problem with antisemitism. That's not to say there is none but it has been vastly blown out of proportion when you consider the size of the membership.
Then you've got people like Margaret Hodge who call Corbyn antisemitic when he hasn't said anything detrimental to any race or religious grouping. It's pathetically transparent.
Really, in effect party political broadcasts on behalf of the Labour Party. Must be true.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 11:02 pmIts almost like Hodge has no political relevance within the Labour Party any more and is determined to use other means to either win it back or destroy it. Sometimes you wonder how strong her socialist beliefs were for a rich lady.Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:58 pmThere's also thisComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:16 pm Thing is, this guy is probably right. Israel hate Corbyn mainly because he supports the Palestinians, and is critical of Israel.
Did anyone else see the documentary "The Lobby"?
This showed on s secretly filmed video, Israeli officials working for the State of Israel plotting to get rid of all politicians that are not sympathetic to Israel. It's worth a watch.... You can still access it via You Tube.
There's a famous bit where Joan Ryan MP, was bribed with a million quid to help Israel get rid of people who are critical of Israel.
The Israel lobby in the UK are, IMO far too powerful, including many MPs who seem to be more interested in Israel than they do Britain.
You can accuse Russia of anything, but accuse Israel, and you have a ton of bricks fall on you from a great height
and this
or this
Anyone who looks at the facts honestly could not possibly say Labour has a problem with antisemitism. That's not to say there is none but it has been vastly blown out of proportion when you consider the size of the membership.
Then you've got people like Margaret Hodge who call Corbyn antisemitic when he hasn't said anything detrimental to any race or religious grouping. It's pathetically transparent.