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Rumour that we are interested in him, for the third time. Apparently played under Justin at Gills.

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... r-earners/

A neat and tidy player, if he were to sign I guess that puts pressure on Gorman for a starting berth.

Hmm, one of the top earners at a club with a large budget...

Real Al wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 8:14 am Hmm, one of the top earners at a club with a large budget...

Could be a demotivator, dropping down and less money. But a London boy perhaps he personally would be happier in London than Bradford.

An OK player whose career has mostly been above L2.

Absolutely not the sort of player we need.

He’s a bit too fluffy in my opinion

No thanks

Would be very underwhelmed if he signed.

So a guy who has played 300 games at L1/championship level consistently over a number of years ain’t good enough for a L2 side!

Paging Mr Messi.

Never as bad as the experts on here made out. (see also, John Marquis). Probably needs to play alongside a midfield-enforcer though to be effective, which we don't really have.

Neat and tidy: does remind of Gorman’s style, however.

If he is one of the cm's coming in then hopefully the other is the enforcer we desperately need.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:18 am Neat and tidy: does remind of Gorman’s style, however.

Agreed, the main difference is his ball retention was better when he was here last.

Was average in our league one side at that time.
Which to be fair might make him better than average in our L2 side next year especially after more experience at the level above since then.

But not really the Dawson/Vincelot mould I think we desperately need

I would not be unhappy if we signed him. He is nearly 30 and we again become top heavy with older players. Currently 5 signed and with Dayton and Turley probables brings this to 7. What we are still missing is the 24-28 age group with only Brophy and Clay within this group.

Baddo wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:21 am Was average in our league one side at that time.
Which to be fair might make him better than average in our L2 side next year especially after more experience at the level above since then.

But not really the Dawson/Vincelot mould I think we desperately need

Agreed, but we need 2 players in that position so if the other is the enforcer we will be well covered on the middle of the park.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:30 am

Baddo wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:21 am Was average in our league one side at that time.
Which to be fair might make him better than average in our L2 side next year especially after more experience at the level above since then.

But not really the Dawson/Vincelot mould I think we desperately need

Agreed, but we need 2 players in that position so if the other is the enforcer we will be well covered on the middle of the park.

So if two players needed in each position, then two midfield enforcers still needed as none in the squad at present. If that did happen and Wright also joined, then 3 players for the other midfield position, e.g Wright, Clay and last in the pecking order.......Gorman !!
Of course with injuries, suspensions and loss of form, never as clear cut as that.

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:28 am I would not be unhappy if we signed him. He is nearly 30 and we again become top heavy with older players. Currently 5 signed and with Dayton and Turley probables brings this to 7. What we are still missing is the 24-28 age group with only Brophy and Clay within this group.

Ageist post I might have to report you

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 10:07 am

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:28 am I would not be unhappy if we signed him. He is nearly 30 and we again become top heavy with older players. Currently 5 signed and with Dayton and Turley probables brings this to 7. What we are still missing is the 24-28 age group with only Brophy and Clay within this group.

Ageist post I might have to report you

Also what about the under 24 age group !!

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 10:15 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 10:07 am

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:28 am I would not be unhappy if we signed him. He is nearly 30 and we again become top heavy with older players. Currently 5 signed and with Dayton and Turley probables brings this to 7. What we are still missing is the 24-28 age group with only Brophy and Clay within this group.

Ageist post I might have to report you

Also what about the under 24 age group !!

See I was right ageist lol

Thor wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:20 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:18 am Neat and tidy: does remind of Gorman’s style, however.

Agreed, the main difference is his ball retention was better when he was here last.

His similarity to Gorman is my only concern. But given Gorman has not proved himself perhaps him coming in ahead of Gorman makes sense. Don't recall if he was a tough enforcer type of player, which is what we need. Some bite in CM. Something we are lacking.

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:17 am Never as bad as the experts on here made out. (see also, John Marquis). Probably needs to play alongside a midfield-enforcer though to be effective, which we don't really have.

This.

He's decent, has played a lot of his career at a higher level than L2. Would be a good addition.

No thanks. May as well get Jimmy Smith back.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 11:56 am

Thor wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:20 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:18 am Neat and tidy: does remind of Gorman’s style, however.

Agreed, the main difference is his ball retention was better when he was here last.

His similarity to Gorman is my only concern. But given Gorman has not proved himself perhaps him coming in ahead of Gorman makes sense. Don't recall if he was a tough enforcer type of player, which is what we need. Some bite in CM. Something we are lacking.

He’s nothing like Gorman.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 1:10 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 11:56 am

Thor wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 9:20 am

Agreed, the main difference is his ball retention was better when he was here last.

His similarity to Gorman is my only concern. But given Gorman has not proved himself perhaps him coming in ahead of Gorman makes sense. Don't recall if he was a tough enforcer type of player, which is what we need. Some bite in CM. Something we are lacking.

He’s nothing like Gorman.

There will be differences of course. What do you consider to be the main ones.