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Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 7:09 am**

He has been interviewed for American tv which will be shown next week. In a brief to newspapers he says that he doesn’t regret doing what he did and that he wouldn’t change a thing.

So in reality his only regret it that he admitted that he cheated. Shameful.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 9:53 am**

Or just regrets getting caught....

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 11:15 am**

RealLoughtonO wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 9:53 am Or just regrets getting caught....

Spot on there mate

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 9:44 pm**

Contemptible human, but a true representative of such a corrupt sport.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 9:55 pm**

I think they should be able to take as many drugs as they like.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 10:04 pm**

I'd certainly sign up if they were.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 10:35 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 7:09 am He has been interviewed for American tv which will be shown next week. In a brief to newspapers he says that he doesn’t regret doing what he did and that he wouldn’t change a thing.

So in reality his only regret it that he admitted that he cheated. Shameful.

I'm thinking we should wait to see what he has to say before going off on one on a minor league MB.

I'm sure the drugs was a thing with the bikey guys.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm**

I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 10:56 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 11:01 pm**

BelgianO wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:56 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did

You know who Michele Ferrari is ?

You know who introduced them ?

Yup The Cannibal

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 9:09 am**

Yes, Armstrong did what most of them were doing. That’s fine. But anyone who didn’t take drugs or kiss the feet of Sir Armstrong was purged from the peleton. He took drugs, and people who take drugs we can feel sorry for but if you are the head of the cartel there is no sympathy. Bloke is a scumbag.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 12:45 pm**

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 9:09 am Yes, Armstrong did what most of them were doing. That’s fine. But anyone who didn’t take drugs or kiss the feet of Sir Armstrong was purged from the peleton. He took drugs, and people who take drugs we can feel sorry for but if you are the head of the cartel there is no sympathy. Bloke is a scumbag.

Froome Indurain Mercxx Hinault Wiggins
All of whom have some very ropey cover stories.

Armstrong just cheated better than the other cheats through History.

Id much rather a race that allowed medical science to aid these guys over the long weekly tours .
But relative to not just height & weight but to resting heart levels , oxygen saturation rates etc.

An even playing field above who has the biggest budget must be fair play.

A £30 million budget is not only a huge advantage over a team of £20 million is scandalous, considering it is basically advertising the team & what they sell

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 2:26 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did

One of your more hypocritical posts along the lines of despots being okay if they were kind to their mother and animals.

Hilarious.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did

So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 2:30 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did
So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.

That Ben Johnson fella donated some excess plates to his local YMCA. Totally redeemed himself IMHO.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 2:33 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did
So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.

Nope , but in a Sport tjat has been cheating for the last 50-60 years why shouldnt one of tbe cheaters do something so good .

Or are YOU happy that people DIE of CANCER rather than a high end celebrity does that much.

If Armstrongs happy with it why wouldnt I be

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 2:34 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did
So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.
Nope , but in a Sport tjat has been cheating for the last 50-60 years why shouldnt one of tbe cheaters do something so good .

Or are YOU happy that people DIE of CANCER rather than a high end celebrity does that much.

If Armstrongs happy with it why wouldnt I be

You are digging yourself in here. Just make sure you pull your head out of the sand.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 3:03 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm

So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.
Nope , but in a Sport tjat has been cheating for the last 50-60 years why shouldnt one of tbe cheaters do something so good .

Or are YOU happy that people DIE of CANCER rather than a high end celebrity does that much.

If Armstrongs happy with it why wouldnt I be
You are digging yourself in here. Just make sure you pull your head out of the sand.

Dis im doing no such thing

Cycling is Still not CLEAN .

Im just opposing the Original post claim he wouldnt change a thing, other than being caught

Beating Cancer , Raising Massive money for Charity .

So he won a bike race 7 times & they call him out as a cheat, when we know
Ullrich won as a cheat Pantani won as a cheat
Valverde won as a cheat Landis won as a cheat
Mercxx & Indurain almost certainly were cheats ( esp the former ) , the list goes on.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 3:16 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 3:03 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:33 pm

Nope , but in a Sport tjat has been cheating for the last 50-60 years why shouldnt one of tbe cheaters do something so good .

Or are YOU happy that people DIE of CANCER rather than a high end celebrity does that much.

If Armstrongs happy with it why wouldnt I be
You are digging yourself in here. Just make sure you pull your head out of the sand.
Dis im doing no such thing

Cycling is Still not CLEAN .

Im just opposing the Original post claim he wouldnt change a thing, other than being caught

Beating Cancer , Raising Massive money for Charity .

So he won a bike race 7 times & they call him out as a cheat, when we know
Ullrich won as a cheat Pantani won as a cheat
Valverde won as a cheat Landis won as a cheat
Mercxx & Indurain almost certainly were cheats ( esp the former ) , the list goes on.

You can’t assume Mercxx and Indurain were cheats without mentioning anything about Froome and Jiffy Bag Wiggins. They are more recent so more dubious surely.

I hope you don’t feel us Brits are averse to that sort of thing. If so, two words - Tommy Simpson.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 3:27 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 12:45 pm
Beradogs wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 9:09 am Yes, Armstrong did what most of them were doing. That’s fine. But anyone who didn’t take drugs or kiss the feet of Sir Armstrong was purged from the peleton. He took drugs, and people who take drugs we can feel sorry for but if you are the head of the cartel there is no sympathy. Bloke is a scumbag.
Froome Indurain Mercxx Hinault Wiggins
All of whom have some very ropey cover stories.

Armstrong just cheated better than the other cheats through History.

Id much rather a race that allowed medical science to aid these guys over the long weekly tours .
But relative to not just height & weight but to resting heart levels , oxygen saturation rates etc.

An even playing field above who has the biggest budget must be fair play.

A £30 million budget is not only a huge advantage over a team of £20 million is scandalous, considering it is basically advertising the team & what they sell

Come on Dis'
Dont make a comment that i havent mentioned Froome & Wiggs , when it is clear i already have .

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 3:27 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 3:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 3:03 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:34 pm

You are digging yourself in here. Just make sure you pull your head out of the sand.
Dis im doing no such thing

Cycling is Still not CLEAN .

Im just opposing the Original post claim he wouldnt change a thing, other than being caught

Beating Cancer , Raising Massive money for Charity .

So he won a bike race 7 times & they call him out as a cheat, when we know
Ullrich won as a cheat Pantani won as a cheat
Valverde won as a cheat Landis won as a cheat
Mercxx & Indurain almost certainly were cheats ( esp the former ) , the list goes on.
You can’t assume Mercxx and Indurain were cheats without mentioning anything about Froome and Jiffy Bag Wiggins. They are more recent so more dubious surely.

I hope you don’t feel us Brits are averse to that sort of thing. If so, two words - Tommy Simpson.

See post above this one

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 4:17 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 10:53 pm I actually like Armstrong again .

Nearly dies of Cancer has a ball chopped off for his trouble.
Raised $325 million by the end of 2005 for his Cancer Charity.
Inspired 10s of thousands of cancer suffers with his sucessful battle against cancer.

Considering he only did what pretty much everybody else has been doing for ever ,

Well done Lance on the money raised & beating cancer the way you did
So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.
Nope , but in a Sport tjat has been cheating for the last 50-60 years why shouldnt one of tbe cheaters do something so good .

Or are YOU happy that people DIE of CANCER rather than a high end celebrity does that much.

If Armstrongs happy with it why wouldnt I be

The ends justify the means. Fine.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 5:16 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 4:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 2:28 pm

So it’s OK to be a sports cheat so long as you do some good works too. Fair enough.
Nope , but in a Sport tjat has been cheating for the last 50-60 years why shouldnt one of tbe cheaters do something so good .

Or are YOU happy that people DIE of CANCER rather than a high end celebrity does that much.

If Armstrongs happy with it why wouldnt I be
The ends justify the means. Fine.

Unfortunately its not Fine doh' , idmuch rather the sport of cycling was clean but its not & hasnt been for decades.

If Cycling cleans up 100% then we can all point fingers as should be the case.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 6:10 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 3:27 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 12:45 pm
Beradogs wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 9:09 am Yes, Armstrong did what most of them were doing. That’s fine. But anyone who didn’t take drugs or kiss the feet of Sir Armstrong was purged from the peleton. He took drugs, and people who take drugs we can feel sorry for but if you are the head of the cartel there is no sympathy. Bloke is a scumbag.
Froome Indurain Mercxx Hinault Wiggins
All of whom have some very ropey cover stories.

Armstrong just cheated better than the other cheats through History.

Id much rather a race that allowed medical science to aid these guys over the long weekly tours .
But relative to not just height & weight but to resting heart levels , oxygen saturation rates etc.

An even playing field above who has the biggest budget must be fair play.

A £30 million budget is not only a huge advantage over a team of £20 million is scandalous, considering it is basically advertising the team & what they sell
Come on Dis'
Dont make a comment that i havent mentioned Froome & Wiggs , when it is clear i already have .

Okay, so are you casting aspersions on their wins or downright calling them dirty?

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2019 6:16 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 6:10 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 3:27 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 12:45 pm

Froome Indurain Mercxx Hinault Wiggins
All of whom have some very ropey cover stories.

Armstrong just cheated better than the other cheats through History.

Id much rather a race that allowed medical science to aid these guys over the long weekly tours .
But relative to not just height & weight but to resting heart levels , oxygen saturation rates etc.

An even playing field above who has the biggest budget must be fair play.

A £30 million budget is not only a huge advantage over a team of £20 million is scandalous, considering it is basically advertising the team & what they sell
Come on Dis'
Dont make a comment that i havent mentioned Froome & Wiggs , when it is clear i already have .
Okay, so are you casting aspersions on their wins or downright calling them dirty?

Come on Dis this has been covered exstensively in the past on the old board.
Of course they are dirty , because they are not 100 % Clean.

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