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SNP Threatening to unilaterally hold another Scottish Referendum. I reckon this will be a catalyst for those who wanted to Remain, to do the same and go for another vote to rejoin, should it happen.

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:37 pm SNP Threatening to unilaterally hold another Scottish Referendum. I reckon this will be a catalyst for Remoaners to do the same snd go for another vote to rejoin, should it happen.

No chance of another referendum anytime soon.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:40 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:37 pm SNP Threatening to unilaterally hold another Scottish Referendum. I reckon this will be a catalyst for Remoaners to do the same snd go for another vote to rejoin, should it happen.

No chance of another referendum anytime soon.

Not an official one but a ‘Vote of the people’ campaign. They have to start the ball rolling somewhere.

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:43 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:40 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:37 pm SNP Threatening to unilaterally hold another Scottish Referendum. I reckon this will be a catalyst for Remoaners to do the same snd go for another vote to rejoin, should it happen.

No chance of another referendum anytime soon.

Not an official one but a ‘Vote of the people’ campaign. They have to start the ball rolling somewhere.

We are out of that of that club now and I don’t see us rejoining unless they reform.
Couldn’t give a toss about Scotland myself.

Best not have another vote about anything again really.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:49 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:43 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:40 pm

No chance of another referendum anytime soon.

Not an official one but a ‘Vote of the people’ campaign. They have to start the ball rolling somewhere.

We are out of that of that club now and I don’t see us rejoining unless they reform.
Couldn’t give a toss about Scotland myself.

Not Immediately, years and years and a campaign

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:16 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:49 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:43 pm

Not an official one but a ‘Vote of the people’ campaign. They have to start the ball rolling somewhere.

We are out of that of that club now and I don’t see us rejoining unless they reform.
Couldn’t give a toss about Scotland myself.

Not Immediately, years and years and a campaign

In other words
A bit like the Eurosceptics ( leavers) & the EEC since the referendum in 1972
Followed by membership in 73 .

Possibly Tuffer , could imagine you at Brisbane Road wearing an EU beret and waving a duel Orient/EU flag, where do you sit?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:41 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:16 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:49 pm

We are out of that of that club now and I don’t see us rejoining unless they reform.
Couldn’t give a toss about Scotland myself.

Not Immediately, years and years and a campaign

In other words
A bit like the Eurosceptics ( leavers) & the EEC since the referendum in 1972
Followed by membership in 73 .

We didn’t have a referendum to join.

You couldn’t really blame them though. I’d like the UK to stay as it is, but they voted overwhelmingly against leaving, and they’ve been taken out against their will. It’s a bit rich claiming you’re taking back your sovereignty whilst denying them theres.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:48 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:41 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:16 pm

Not Immediately, years and years and a campaign

In other words
A bit like the Eurosceptics ( leavers) & the EEC since the referendum in 1972
Followed by membership in 73 .

We didn’t have a referendum to join.

In 1975 we had a referendum to continue membership
Sorry 1972 was something else i was thinking about from memory .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Un ... referendum

The United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum, also known variously as the Referendum on the European Community (Common Market), the Common Market referendum and EEC membership referendum, took place under the provisions of the Referendum Act 1975 on 5 June 1975 in the United Kingdom to gauge support for the country's continued membership of the European Communities (EC) — often known at the time as the European Community and the Common Market — which it had entered two-and-a-half years earlier on 1 January 1973 under the Conservative government of Edward Heath. The Labour Party's manifesto for the October 1974 general election had promised that the people would decide through the ballot box whether to remain in the EC

Yes 17,378,581 67.23% 
No 8,470,073 32.77%

Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

Oh the irony

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

A market of less than 12 countries all with similar wealth.
Not like now with free movement from poor nations undermining working terms and conditions.

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

You lost get over it
37 years later you're still moaning about it !!

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

You lost get over it
37 years later you're still moaning about it !!

I was for it then though so I won

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

You lost get over it
37 years later you're still moaning about it !!

46 years .

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:37 pm SNP Threatening to unilaterally hold another Scottish Referendum. I reckon this will be a catalyst for Remoaners to do the same snd go for another vote to rejoin, should it happen.

I stopped being interested in this post the moment the bot wrote 'Remoaners'. Yawn!

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:20 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

A market of less than 12 countries all with similar wealth.
Not like now with free movement from poor nations undermining working terms and conditions.

That’s only true for very low skilled work, and if that’s the only kind of work you can do because you did not learn a trade, then you need to decide who’s responsibility that is. Of course it also ignores all the positive benefits of UK movement to other countries

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:27 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

You lost get over it
37 years later you're still moaning about it !!

46 years .

37 since the EU started expanding

46 years was the EEC
In 1980 greece joined to make it 10
Solidarity & berlin wall etc led to further change .....

In 83 discussions were held to implement change in the EEC & transform to the EU
In 1986 ( 34 years ago ) the European single act was signed .
Then in 1993 it became the EU .

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:27 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:37 pm SNP Threatening to unilaterally hold another Scottish Referendum. I reckon this will be a catalyst for Remoaners to do the same snd go for another vote to rejoin, should it happen.

I stopped being interested in this post the moment the bot wrote 'Remoaners'. Yawn!

Ok, fair enough, I have changed it so you can contribute. Sorry for upsetting you.

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:37 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:20 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

A market of less than 12 countries all with similar wealth.
Not like now with free movement from poor nations undermining working terms and conditions.

That’s only true for very low skilled work, and if that’s the only kind of work you can do because you did not learn a trade, then you need to decide who’s responsibility that is. Of course it also ignores all the positive benefits of UK movement to other countries

Couldnt have put it better myself fella

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:44 pm

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:37 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:20 pm

A market of less than 12 countries all with similar wealth.
Not like now with free movement from poor nations undermining working terms and conditions.

That’s only true for very low skilled work, and if that’s the only kind of work you can do because you did not learn a trade, then you need to decide who’s responsibility that is. Of course it also ignores all the positive benefits of UK movement to other countries

Couldnt have put it better myself fella

I’ve done alright for myself.
You might want to look at The Building trade to see the damage mass immigration has done.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:21 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:44 pm

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:37 pm

That’s only true for very low skilled work, and if that’s the only kind of work you can do because you did not learn a trade, then you need to decide who’s responsibility that is. Of course it also ignores all the positive benefits of UK movement to other countries

Couldnt have put it better myself fella

I’ve done alright for myself.
You might want to look at The Building trade to see the damage mass immigration has done.

Most in the building trade i know have done very well fkr themselves
English Irish Lithuanian Polish Romanian .

None seem to be short of a bob or 2 .

Even 1 of our own resident posters has foreign employees & he is a brexiteer .

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:37 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:20 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:05 pm Yes but all those who voted ‘Yes’ didn’t know what they were letting themselves in for. The Gammons who did vote aye have all gone, it wasn’t explained what we were getting into.
They vote to join a ‘Common Market ‘ with less than ten countries not a European State with 27 Countries!

market of less than 12 countries all with similar wealth.
Not like now with free movement from poor nations undermining working terms and conditions.

That’s only true for very low skilled work, and if that’s the only kind of work you can do because you did not learn a trade, then you need to decide who’s responsibility that is. Of course it also ignores all the positive benefits of UK movement to other countries

What rubbish.
People in whatever field they are in have fought long and hard for half decent employment conditions and have seen them eroded away by a plentiful supply of cheap labour from abroad.
Blair is a absolute disgrace to allow this to happen.
Its no coincidence that we now have 2 million working people going to food banks because employers can pay a pittance to 6 people sharing a house.
Also the government top up wages of millions of people because of this disgrace.