Independent Leyton Orient Forum

scottychamps wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:37 pm When does Boss contract expire?
Boss is an excellent coach, really nice bloke, orient through and through, and his training sessions are excellent.
But as a manager not quite sure he is the man.
His football knowledge is so good he keeps trying to over complicate the situation and plays players out of position and asks them to do jobs that they can't do.
The best managers like Harry rednapp tells players to keep to basics.
If your a left winger you stay out wide and cross it, if your a forward stay in the box and score goals, simple.
Boss loves to play players out of positions, it's like I must have at least 3 players out of position each game.
We all know Brothy best position is left wing apart from Boss.
Boss plays him left back, in the hole number 10 or in a front 3.
It's like I can't play him where he should play that's just to easy anyone can do that.
Conor best position is centre forward, so we can't play him there, let's make things complicated and play him of the right wing.
Johnson best position is centre forward being a goal hanger, yipee Boss has kept it simple and plays him in his best position and guess what it works 15 goals+.
Let's go back to basics 442 Conor and Johnson up top with Brothy left wing Jordan right wing.
Get our full backs overlapping, crosses into the box and create chances for the front 2.
Cisse holding role to protect our donkey slow defence and jb pulling the strings in the centre.
Cisse needs to up his opta running stats, I would have him running double what he does in a game otherwise I would have him running up hainault hills in training all week.
Keep Joe at left back and get 3 new defenders in Jan cos them 3 are useless, and that will get us top 3 easy.
Job done.
UNFORTUNATELY back in the orient world, we won't get any new players in Jan, probably a cheap loan for 3 months some 19 year old that Boss won't even play, and Boss will continue to play players out of position, players like Cisse going through the motions playing in 2nd gear, and we will finish around 12th.
Boss will get another 12 month contract and say its a working process and all the excusses of Covid ect ect ect.
Nigel I'm free to help Boss out anytime free of charge, wouldn't need so many first team coaches then which would free up our budget to get a new defence in for January.
Up the O's

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:10 pm

scottychamps wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:37 pm When does Boss contract expire?
Boss is an excellent coach, really nice bloke, orient through and through, and his training sessions are excellent.
But as a manager not quite sure he is the man.
His football knowledge is so good he keeps trying to over complicate the situation and plays players out of position and asks them to do jobs that they can't do.
The best managers like Harry rednapp tells players to keep to basics.
If your a left winger you stay out wide and cross it, if your a forward stay in the box and score goals, simple.
Boss loves to play players out of positions, it's like I must have at least 3 players out of position each game.
We all know Brothy best position is left wing apart from Boss.
Boss plays him left back, in the hole number 10 or in a front 3.
It's like I can't play him where he should play that's just to easy anyone can do that.
Conor best position is centre forward, so we can't play him there, let's make things complicated and play him of the right wing.
Johnson best position is centre forward being a goal hanger, yipee Boss has kept it simple and plays him in his best position and guess what it works 15 goals+.
Let's go back to basics 442 Conor and Johnson up top with Brothy left wing Jordan right wing.
Get our full backs overlapping, crosses into the box and create chances for the front 2.
Cisse holding role to protect our donkey slow defence and jb pulling the strings in the centre.
Cisse needs to up his opta running stats, I would have him running double what he does in a game otherwise I would have him running up hainault hills in training all week.
Keep Joe at left back and get 3 new defenders in Jan cos them 3 are useless, and that will get us top 3 easy.
Job done.
UNFORTUNATELY back in the orient world, we won't get any new players in Jan, probably a cheap loan for 3 months some 19 year old that Boss won't even play, and Boss will continue to play players out of position, players like Cisse going through the motions playing in 2nd gear, and we will finish around 12th.
Boss will get another 12 month contract and say its a working process and all the excusses of Covid ect ect ect.
Nigel I'm free to help Boss out anytime free of charge, wouldn't need so many first team coaches then which would free up our budget to get a new defence in for January.
Up the O's

In answer to your question ''When does Boss contract expire'' ?
Well this question has been raised many times on this forum. Same answer always seems to come back, mainly that R-oss is on a 12 month rolling contract, meaning that IF the powers that be decide to terminate his contract, then they will have to pay off the remaining 12 months of salary that is owed to him.

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:23 pm Won’t happen., we all know that. Job for life. If he learns his job, that’s fine. If we continue to be an absolute shambles, then not.

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:03 pm Is it a 12 month rolling contract?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:27 pm "Job for life"
"Shambles"

Embarrassing post. I guess we will have to put up with idiocy like this until we turn it around, again.

Oiram wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:46 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:03 pm Is it a 12 month rolling contract?

Unlike a 12 Day ‘Revolving Door’ contract during the Beelzebub saga.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:27 pm "Job for life"
"Shambles"

Embarrassing post. I guess we will have to put up with idiocy like this until we turn it around, again.

cockhat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:45 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:27 pm "Job for life"
"Shambles"

Embarrassing post. I guess we will have to put up with idiocy like this until we turn it around, again.

Do you think that will happen this season?

scottychamps wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:37 pm When does Boss contract expire?
Boss is an excellent coach, really nice bloke, orient through and through, and his training sessions are excellent.
But as a manager not quite sure he is the man.
His football knowledge is so good he keeps trying to over complicate the situation and plays players out of position and asks them to do jobs that they can't do.
The best managers like Harry rednapp tells players to keep to basics.
If your a left winger you stay out wide and cross it, if your a forward stay in the box and score goals, simple.
Boss loves to play players out of positions, it's like I must have at least 3 players out of position each game.
We all know Brothy best position is left wing apart from Boss.
Boss plays him left back, in the hole number 10 or in a front 3.
It's like I can't play him where he should play that's just to easy anyone can do that.
Conor best position is centre forward, so we can't play him there, let's make things complicated and play him of the right wing.
Johnson best position is centre forward being a goal hanger, yipee Boss has kept it simple and plays him in his best position and guess what it works 15 goals+.
Let's go back to basics 442 Conor and Johnson up top with Brothy left wing Jordan right wing.
Get our full backs overlapping, crosses into the box and create chances for the front 2.
Cisse holding role to protect our donkey slow defence and jb pulling the strings in the centre.
Cisse needs to up his opta running stats, I would have him running double what he does in a game otherwise I would have him running up hainault hills in training all week.
Keep Joe at left back and get 3 new defenders in Jan cos them 3 are useless, and that will get us top 3 easy.
Job done.
UNFORTUNATELY back in the orient world, we won't get any new players in Jan, probably a cheap loan for 3 months some 19 year old that Boss won't even play, and Boss will continue to play players out of position, players like Cisse going through the motions playing in 2nd gear, and we will finish around 12th.
Boss will get another 12 month contract and say its a working process and all the excusses of Covid ect ect ect.
Nigel I'm free to help Boss out anytime free of charge, wouldn't need so many first team coaches then which would free up our budget to get a new defence in for January.
Up the O's

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:55 pm

scottychamps wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:37 pm When does Boss contract expire?
Boss is an excellent coach, really nice bloke, orient through and through, and his training sessions are excellent.
But as a manager not quite sure he is the man.
His football knowledge is so good he keeps trying to over complicate the situation and plays players out of position and asks them to do jobs that they can't do.
The best managers like Harry rednapp tells players to keep to basics.
If your a left winger you stay out wide and cross it, if your a forward stay in the box and score goals, simple.
Boss loves to play players out of positions, it's like I must have at least 3 players out of position each game.
We all know Brothy best position is left wing apart from Boss.
Boss plays him left back, in the hole number 10 or in a front 3.
It's like I can't play him where he should play that's just to easy anyone can do that.
Conor best position is centre forward, so we can't play him there, let's make things complicated and play him of the right wing.
Johnson best position is centre forward being a goal hanger, yipee Boss has kept it simple and plays him in his best position and guess what it works 15 goals+.
Let's go back to basics 442 Conor and Johnson up top with Brothy left wing Jordan right wing.
Get our full backs overlapping, crosses into the box and create chances for the front 2.
Cisse holding role to protect our donkey slow defence and jb pulling the strings in the centre.
Cisse needs to up his opta running stats, I would have him running double what he does in a game otherwise I would have him running up hainault hills in training all week.
Keep Joe at left back and get 3 new defenders in Jan cos them 3 are useless, and that will get us top 3 easy.
Job done.
UNFORTUNATELY back in the orient world, we won't get any new players in Jan, probably a cheap loan for 3 months some 19 year old that Boss won't even play, and Boss will continue to play players out of position, players like Cisse going through the motions playing in 2nd gear, and we will finish around 12th.
Boss will get another 12 month contract and say its a working process and all the excusses of Covid ect ect ect.
Nigel I'm free to help Boss out anytime free of charge, wouldn't need so many first team coaches then which would free up our budget to get a new defence in for January.
Up the O's

Actually , I would take finishing about 12th right now .

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 pm Boss signed his 12 month rolling contract on 7 Jan 20 so its coming up for renewal now and I'd be very surprised if a new roll over is not close to being agreed.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 pm Boss signed his 12 month rolling contract on 7 Jan 20 so its coming up for renewal now and I'd be very surprised if a new roll over is not close to being agreed.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:43 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 pm Boss signed his 12 month rolling contract on 7 Jan 20 so its coming up for renewal now and I'd be very surprised if a new roll over is not close to being agreed.

A rolling contract is a continuous contract not fixed.
To pay him off they will have to settle for the outstanding 12 months.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 pm The assumption on here is it would result in a 12 month pay off

I be astonished if a club on limited rescources did not have a contract termination clause which would have an agreed shorter period of up to three months or thereabouts

The league and managers association must have a standard contract used as a basis

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:08 pm

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:43 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 pm Boss signed his 12 month rolling contract on 7 Jan 20 so its coming up for renewal now and I'd be very surprised if a new roll over is not close to being agreed.

A rolling contract is a continuous contract not fixed.
To pay him off they will have to settle for the outstanding 12 months.

The sooner they terminate Embleton’s employment, the sooner our team stands a chance of promotion.
A nice bloke he may be but a Manager he isn’t, it may cost a few Bob to terminate his employment now but no more than hanging on and wasting more money and p*ssing off supporters.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:43 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 pm Boss signed his 12 month rolling contract on 7 Jan 20 so its coming up for renewal now and I'd be very surprised if a new roll over is not close to being agreed.

A rolling contract is a continuous contract not fixed.
To pay him off they will have to settle for the outstanding 12 months.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 pm The assumption on here is it would result in a 12 month pay off

I be astonished if a club on limited rescources did not have a contract termination clause which would have an agreed shorter period of up to three months or thereabouts

The league and managers association must have a standard contract used as a basis