Independent Leyton Orient Forum

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... s-54195827

It seems there are some changes afoot.

Free roaming seems like it may be gone
More driving paperwork will be needed
Health cover needs to be covered at a higher cost .

Wow!
This is not what Farage and Johnson told us. We were told that Brexit is all Win/ Win for the Brits.

Actually, with regard to emergency health cover while in the EU: we had free access under EHIC. Now you have to buy travel insurance or risk being stuffed should you fall ill or have an accident ....

And this is just a minor change among all the consequences of Brexit.

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:35 am Wow!
This is not what Farage and Johnson told us. We were told that Brexit is all Win/ Win for the Brits.

Actually, with regard to emergency health cover while in the EU: we had free access under EHIC. Now you have to buy travel insurance or risk being stuffed should you fall ill or have an accident ....

And this is just a minor change among all the consequences of Brexit.

This works both ways though it stops the tourist coming here and claiming free operations and treatment on the NHS
Forgot about that didn't ya

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:05 am

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:35 am Wow!
This is not what Farage and Johnson told us. We were told that Brexit is all Win/ Win for the Brits.

Actually, with regard to emergency health cover while in the EU: we had free access under EHIC. Now you have to buy travel insurance or risk being stuffed should you fall ill or have an accident ....

And this is just a minor change among all the consequences of Brexit.

This works both ways though it stops the tourist coming here and claiming free operations and treatment on the NHS
Forgot about that didn't ya

Not really

Jeremy Hunt says theyll pay up front
This clip is 3 years old Pipkins

Its not our fault, its the EU making things difficult. We are a special entitled nation and every other country is jealous. We invented everything and the world should thankful.
Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves, Britain never ever ever will be slain.

supposition lets wait and see.

Why wait?

https://news.sky.com/story/christmas-or ... t-12134655

Depressing

Don't worry about not getting your Xbox or Playstation in time for Chistmas.

Worry about how you're going to get fresh food early in 2021

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rage-space

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:35 am Wow!
This is not what Farage and Johnson told us. We were told that Brexit is all Win/ Win for the Brits.

Actually, with regard to emergency health cover while in the EU: we had free access under EHIC. Now you have to buy travel insurance or risk being stuffed should you fall ill or have an accident ....

And this is just a minor change among all the consequences of Brexit.

Should buy travel insurance anyhow wherever you are on holiday. Spain and France always wanted to see insurance, especially ski resorts in France whilst we were in the EU. We have actually left the EU.

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:45 am

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:35 am Wow!
This is not what Farage and Johnson told us. We were told that Brexit is all Win/ Win for the Brits.

Actually, with regard to emergency health cover while in the EU: we had free access under EHIC. Now you have to buy travel insurance or risk being stuffed should you fall ill or have an accident ....

And this is just a minor change among all the consequences of Brexit.

Should buy travel insurance anyhow wherever you are on holiday. Spain and France always wanted to see insurance, especially ski resorts in France whilst we were in the EU. We have actually left the EU.

Missing the point. Today your travel insurance doesn’t have to cover what the EHIC currently covers so most people will now have to take out extended cover and pay more for it, naturally.

We have already left the EU. I am not missing any point Sir. From my experience. EU countries always wanted your insurance details. They were no soft touch like our International Health Service. They had limitations and Travel Insurance always advises by the Foreign Office for any travel abroad.

Yeah you’re right, the bbc article is wrong.

Mr Oiram:- When I was on my Honeymoon 1980. My wife befriended a lady, who was crying bitterly one evening in our Hotel in Austria. It transpired that her husband had slipped on a mountain ramble at 6,000 feet and torn his hamstring. The wife remembered seeing a couple of natives painting up the footpath markers, a little lower down. By signs, she got them to assist. They decided going for help wasn't an option. They heaved the guy over their shoulder and taking turns, manhandled him, back to our resort, 3,000 feet lower. The Hotel summoned an ambulance and he was whisked off to Feldkirch Krakenhaus, where they operated on him and plastered him up and he spent the remaining 10 days in the said Hospital. Thompson Holidays were worse than useless. Fortunately I had hired a car for the duration, as otherwise the lady would have had to take the Post bus to Bludenz, train to Feldkirch & bus to the Krakenhaus. My wife and I gave the lady a lift most mornings and arranged to pick her up late afternoon. Thompson took the returning coach to the Hospital on the way home and managed to him somehow to the Airport and did actually give him an extra seat for the flight home. The Austrian Authorities charged nothing for the operation or Hospital & doctor's fees. They merely asked that next time the couple came to Austria they return the crutches please. Fortunately a lot of European's aren't as xenophobic as a lot of the English ( I find Welsh, Scots and Irish tend not to share this nasty trait ). Oh! and the Austrians didn't even bother to ask for his Passport or in he had any Insurance..

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:22 pm Yeah you’re right, the bbc article is wrong.

BBC very pro EU, not a very objective source but article is fair, ‘unresolved’ matters. These could be resolved , who knows? Fact is we have left the EU. We managed to survive two World Wars before we joined and happily enjoy the beauty of European travel also.

Whenever someone says 'we survived two world wars' I really struggle to understand what the point is. Why is the barometer of Brexit simply survival?! I thought it was supposed to result in material improvements to our lives?

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:22 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:22 pm Yeah you’re right, the bbc article is wrong.

BBC very pro EU, not a very objective source but article is fair, ‘unresolved’ matters. These could be resolved , who knows? Fact is we have left the EU. We managed to survive two World Wars before we joined and happily enjoy the beauty of European travel also.

You know that nothing changes until Jan, right? The fact we’ve ‘left the EU’ means nothing.

Yeah, that’s true. And why would anyone want that travel to be easy? Down with not having green cards and spending 2 hours proving you can afford to enter a country. Those Brave bastards In the war wouldn’t have it any other way

Whilst Brexit has always been totally bonkers in my opinion, pushing ahead during this Pandemic is pure insanity. What 2021 will bring us is uncertain enough without the additional, and very real, concerns Brexit brings around imports of food & medicines from Europe (plus the myriad of other issues which haven't been resolved by our she-ite government).

We should have been agreeing a Brexit postponement until Covid is under control. But, of course, this would take decisiveness and moral strength from the government so we're doubly f*cked there.

I don't know how you could look at their handling of the last 8 months and have any degree of comfort over our exit from the EU. A lot of people seem to have it in their heads that a deal means most things will remain the same after January, except freedom of movement will be gone. Covid and brexit is a properly grim double whammy of sh*t to occur at the same time.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:35 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:22 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:22 pm Yeah you’re right, the bbc article is wrong.

BBC very pro EU, not a very objective source but article is fair, ‘unresolved’ matters. These could be resolved , who knows? Fact is we have left the EU. We managed to survive two World Wars before we joined and happily enjoy the beauty of European travel also.

You know that nothing changes until Jan, right? The fact we’ve ‘left the EU’ means nothing.

Yeah, that’s true. And why would anyone want that travel to be easy? Down with not having green cards and spending 2 hours proving you can afford to enter a country. Those Brave bastards In the war wouldn’t have it any other way

It was never going to be easy we know, but democracy must prevail, the vote was to leave the EU.

For all the squabbling last year, the useless Lib Dems (who wanted to stop Brexit by any means) and Labour under inept Corbyn (and Starmer in charge of their Brexit agenda) could have gone with May’s deal which would have had a softer landing . Those two parties have a lot to answer for in this saga.

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:44 pm Whilst Brexit has always been totally bonkers in my opinion, pushing ahead during this Pandemic is pure insanity. What 2021 will bring us is uncertain enough without the additional, and very real, concerns Brexit brings around imports of food & medicines from Europe (plus the myriad of other issues which haven't been resolved by our she-ite government).

We should have been agreeing a Brexit postponement until Covid is under control. But, of course, this would take decisiveness and moral strength from the government so we're doubly f*cked there.

But what a perfect time to get out. All the sh*t to come can be blamed on the Global Pandemic.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:54 pm I don't know how you could look at their handling of the last 8 months and have any degree of comfort over our exit from the EU. A lot of people seem to have it in their heads that a deal means most things will remain the same after January, except freedom of movement will be gone. Covid and brexit is a properly grim double whammy of sh*t to occur at the same time.

We will have to see. I have yet to see any active campaigning going on of any seriousness to get us to rejoin the EU. Poland and Hungary are already withholding funding to pay for Covid collectively for the future EU budget.

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:44 pm Whilst Brexit has always been totally bonkers in my opinion, pushing ahead during this Pandemic is pure insanity. What 2021 will bring us is uncertain enough without the additional, and very real, concerns Brexit brings around imports of food & medicines from Europe (plus the myriad of other issues which haven't been resolved by our she-ite government).

We should have been agreeing a Brexit postponement until Covid is under control. But, of course, this would take decisiveness and moral strength from the government so we're doubly f*cked there.

Why? More delaying tactics? We have left, get used to it?

There has been no ‘ crashing out’ or ‘falling off cliffs’ Swinson the chief scaremonger has left politics and feathered her nest in yet another well paid quango. She was good wasn’t she? Never had a proper job in her life.

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:28 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:35 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:22 pm

BBC very pro EU, not a very objective source but article is fair, ‘unresolved’ matters. These could be resolved , who knows? Fact is we have left the EU. We managed to survive two World Wars before we joined and happily enjoy the beauty of European travel also.

You know that nothing changes until Jan, right? The fact we’ve ‘left the EU’ means nothing.

Yeah, that’s true. And why would anyone want that travel to be easy? Down with not having green cards and spending 2 hours proving you can afford to enter a country. Those Brave bastards In the war wouldn’t have it any other way

It was never going to be easy we know, but democracy must prevail, the vote was to leave the EU.

For all the squabbling last year, the useless Lib Dems (who wanted to stop Brexit by any means) and Labour under inept Corbyn (and Starmer in charge of their Brexit agenda) could have gone with May’s deal which would have had a softer landing . Those two parties have a lot to answer for in this saga.

Johnsons deal is the.same as Mays deal

Except he will break international law after the 1st of jan .

Good luck negotiating with people who know you wont
Honour agrrements & deals .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:58 pm

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:28 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:35 pm

You know that nothing changes until Jan, right? The fact we’ve ‘left the EU’ means nothing.

Yeah, that’s true. And why would anyone want that travel to be easy? Down with not having green cards and spending 2 hours proving you can afford to enter a country. Those Brave bastards In the war wouldn’t have it any other way

It was never going to be easy we know, but democracy must prevail, the vote was to leave the EU.

For all the squabbling last year, the useless Lib Dems (who wanted to stop Brexit by any means) and Labour under inept Corbyn (and Starmer in charge of their Brexit agenda) could have gone with May’s deal which would have had a softer landing . Those two parties have a lot to answer for in this saga.

Johnsons deal is the.same as Mays deal

Except he will break international law after the 1st of jan .

Good luck negotiating with people who know you wont
Honour agrrements & deals .

A deal will almost certainly be agreed, suits everyone to have one. Will be concessions on both sides I feel and they will probably go to the wire to finalise matters. I think that subsequent trade deals will be encouraged as businesses will want it, especially now the economy has suffered due to the Covid crisis.