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Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Vigaro

Turley Akinola Happe Brophy

JMD Clay Cisse McAnuff

Johnson Ruel

Back to basics with 4-4-2. Players in positions they know.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:04 pm
by jamespevans
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Turley Akinola Happe Brophy

JMD Clay Cisse McAnuff

Johnson Ruel

Back to basics with 4-4-2. Players in positions they know.
Turley isn't a right back
Brophy is a winger
McAnuff doesn't have the legs for three games in a week
JMD has always flattered to deceive

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:05 pm
by tuffers#1
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Ling Turley Happe Widdowson

Ruel Clay Cisse McAnuff Brophy

Johnson

Lots of pace Wide with 4-5-1 Players in positions they know.
Much better use of the 11

Vig
Akinola coulson Happe widdowson
McaNuff clay cisse brophy
Wilko dj

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:08 pm
by MrB
Unfortunately I dont think we have best line up

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Vig

Judd Turley Happe Widdowson

JMD Cisse Clay (Jobi every 3rd game) Brophy

Johnson Ruel

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:12 pm
by essexfootball
Widdowson left back end of question

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:13 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Jobi has to go back to left wing.

He came inside when he had lost a yard of pace with this groin injury. But since coming back this season, he’s regained it. He looks as fit and as sharp as I’ve seen him in an Orient shirt. He has as much ‘legs’ as anyone else in our midfield.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:16 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 pm Vig

Judd Turley Happe Widdowson

JMD Cisse Clay (Jobi every 3rd game) Brophy

Johnson Ruel
How can you think Widdowson-Brophy is a better option than Brophy-Jobi?

Same on the right, how could you give Judd-JMD the nod over Turley-JMD? The former is just too light weight.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 pm
by AckneyAwks
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:05 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Ling Turley Happe Widdowson

Ruel Clay Cisse McAnuff Brophy

Johnson

Lots of pace Wide with 4-5-1 Players in positions they know.
Much better use of the 11
We dont have the players for a flat back four, two full backs not upto it. Also Ruel is wasted out there play him up alongside Johnson.
3-5-2 wing backs Judd, Ling or Thomas with Brophy on left. Akinola,Turley and Happe centre backs. Ruel and DJ up front. Jobi must be on the pitch as much as possible.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:23 pm
by Long slender neck
Vig
Ling coulson widdow Brophy
Wrong clay Dayton
wilk angol Dennis

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:24 pm
by KC & sunshine band
Groundhog day
Jackson
Hoadley Mancini Bennett Rofe
Grealish Dyson Allen Cunningham
Kitchen Bullock
For the last 30 minutes bring on Mayo, Chiedozie and Dean Cox
Manager - John Gorman

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:28 pm
by tuffers#1
AckneyAwks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:05 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Ling Turley Happe Widdowson

Ruel Clay Cisse McAnuff Brophy

Johnson

Lots of pace Wide with 4-5-1 Players in positions they know.
Much better use of the 11
We dont have the players for a flat back four, two full backs not upto it. Also Ruel is wasted out there play him up alongside Johnson.
3-5-2 wing backs Judd, Ling or Thomas with Brophy on left. Akinola,Turley and Happe centre backs. Ruel and DJ up front. Jobi must be on the pitch as much as possible.
Of course we have the players for a flat back four
Jobi in the middle Ruel to roam Brophy wide left &
Clay & Cisse to cover each flank of Jobi

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 pm
by AckneyAwks
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:23 pm Vig
Ling coulson widdow Brophy
Wrong clay Dayton
wilk angol Dennis
I like your style PW 🤣🤣🤣

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:04 pm
by gshaw
Vigaroux
Turley Akinola Happe Widdowson
McAnuff Clay Cissé Brophy
Johnson Wilkinson

Close call between Wilkinson and Sotiriou as partner for Johnson

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:16 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 pm Vig

Judd Turley Happe Widdowson

JMD Cisse Clay (Jobi every 3rd game) Brophy

Johnson Ruel
How can you think Widdowson-Brophy is a better option than Brophy-Jobi?

Same on the right, how could you give Judd-JMD the nod over Turley-JMD? The former is just too light weight.
Because despite all the promises, Brophy hasn't been able to get forward playing LB. And Jobi's day on the wing are well behind him.

Judd is the hardest tackler we have. TBF I'd be happy with Turley at RB but prefer him at CB.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:16 pm
by AckneyAwks
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:28 pm
AckneyAwks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:05 pm

Much better use of the 11
We dont have the players for a flat back four, two full backs not upto it. Also Ruel is wasted out there play him up alongside Johnson.
3-5-2 wing backs Judd, Ling or Thomas with Brophy on left. Akinola,Turley and Happe centre backs. Ruel and DJ up front. Jobi must be on the pitch as much as possible.
Of course we have the players for a flat back four
Jobi in the middle Ruel to roam Brophy wide left &
Clay & Cisse to cover each flank of Jobi
That sounds more like 4-4-1-1 if you want Ruel to roam and leave the right flank. Actually Ruel roaming a bit, i like. Cisse and clay dont have pace to cover Jobi.
With my formation the two wing backs cover both wide flanks and Jobi can have Cisse and Clay close to him in the middle but also one can help support our defenders and that still leaves a flexible four in midfield. It's known as movement around the pitch or a diamond.
In a flat back four our full backs are national league level in a wing back formation there may be a spot for Sam.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:30 pm
by tuffers#1
AckneyAwks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:28 pm
AckneyAwks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:19 pm

We dont have the players for a flat back four, two full backs not upto it. Also Ruel is wasted out there play him up alongside Johnson.
3-5-2 wing backs Judd, Ling or Thomas with Brophy on left. Akinola,Turley and Happe centre backs. Ruel and DJ up front. Jobi must be on the pitch as much as possible.
Of course we have the players for a flat back four
Jobi in the middle Ruel to roam Brophy wide left &
Clay & Cisse to cover each flank of Jobi
That sounds more like 4-4-1-1 if you want Ruel to roam and leave the right flank. Actually Ruel roaming a bit, i like. Cisse and clay dont have pace to cover Jobi.
With my formation the two wing backs cover both wide flanks and Jobi can have Cisse and Clay close to him in the middle but also one can help support our defenders and that still leaves a flexible four in midfield. It's known as movement around the pitch or a diamond.
In a flat back four our full backs are national league level in a wing back formation there may be a spot for Sam.
Well to be fair id set it up as an inverted W
Which technically is
42211 , but we wanna keep it simple so 4-5-1 .

Trouble with your system is everybody plays it .
A 4-5-1 with named players allows Ruel the chance to run at players
Or to face up with them, therefore unbalancing the oppo back 4
If they face a 2 theyll just nulify it .

Anyway its as basic plan as you have to have to have flexibility depending on
the merits of your oppo on any given day.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:35 pm
by Long slender neck
Vig
Coulson
JMD Cisse Clay Mcanuff Brophy
Wilkinson Johnson Sotiriou Angol

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:47 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:16 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 pm Vig

Judd Turley Happe Widdowson

JMD Cisse Clay (Jobi every 3rd game) Brophy

Johnson Ruel
How can you think Widdowson-Brophy is a better option than Brophy-Jobi?

Same on the right, how could you give Judd-JMD the nod over Turley-JMD? The former is just too light weight.
Because despite all the promises, Brophy hasn't been able to get forward playing LB. And Jobi's day on the wing are well behind him.

Judd is the hardest tackler we have. TBF I'd be happy with Turley at RB but prefer him at CB.
Jobis days on the wing have come back, that was my main reason for posting this line up. He has that yard of pace back.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:37 am
by moonwalk19
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Turley Akinola Happe Brophy

JMD Clay Cisse McAnuff

Johnson Ruel

Back to basics with 4-4-2. Players in positions they know.
Fans not happy with full backs yet you pick 2players who are not players to play there

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:57 am
by Disoriented
moonwalk19 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:37 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Turley Akinola Happe Brophy

JMD Clay Cisse McAnuff

Johnson Ruel

Back to basics with 4-4-2. Players in positions they know.
Fans not happy with full backs yet you pick 2players who are not players to play there
Fair play fella - you need to consider the negative impact of Covid on the squad.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:32 am
by Born to run
Vigaroux
Judd (or Thomas), Akinola Happe Widdowson
McAnuff Clay Cissé Brophy
Johnson Wilkinson

We have to revert to 4-4-2

Soutiriou and JMD on the bench to replace Mc Anuff and one of the forwards after 60 minutes

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
moonwalk19 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:37 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:00 pm Vigaro

Turley Akinola Happe Brophy

JMD Clay Cisse McAnuff

Johnson Ruel

Back to basics with 4-4-2. Players in positions they know.
Fans not happy with full backs yet you pick 2players who are not players to play there
If we had full backs that we were happy with, then I wouldn’t need to.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:48 am
by O my gawd
4-4-2

Vigouroux

Judd. Akinola. Happe. Widdowson


JMD. Clay Cisse. Brophy


Wilkinson Johnson

Subs
Sargeant
Turley
Coulson
McAnuff
Dennis
Angol
Sotiriou

That's a helluva strong bench & an experienced one at that.
If Jobi was 28 he'd be starting every week, but I'd prefer to use him as a sub on around 55 minutes to an hour either changing the game or protecting a lead with his knowhow & game management.

Re: Our best line up

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:35 am
by Smendrick Feaselberg
I'm not as convinced by JMD as others. Think he's too much of a luxury out wide. I'd have him behind the forward(s) or not at all, but that risks either exposing the midfield even more or playing one up front and leaving out Wilkinson or Sotiriou.