Independent Leyton Orient Forum

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:31 pm Same old Orient, soft underbelly exposed again

Vigoroux - 6 - will be annoyed seeing 3 goals pass him, lucky to get away with dawdling on the ball from incessant backpasses
Brophy - 5 - get him away from LB, did nothing most of the game and was weak on the ball, easily brushed off
Turley - 5 - not his best performance, lost his man from the corner and subbed second half
Happe - 5 - too many backpasses and soft in the head at the end, take the damn foul
Akinola - 5 - gets a 4 at RB, no good there but 6 at CB which is... his position
Wright - 5 - didn't bring much to the table
Cissé - 5 - good header early on seemed to be imposing himself but then got slower and more ponderous. Shadow of last season at the moment
Clay - 4 - was on for a solid 5/6 but docking two points for not taking the foul early at the end then pulling the man down for a needless pen that lost us the game
Sotiriou - 5 - good assist but then poor touch cost the first goal. Pretty anonymous after that
Wilkinson - 5 - lovely finish but did little else
Johnson - 5 - didn't have a sniff really

McAnuff - 8 - the only one who has a clue outfield
JMD - 7 - looked lively great goal

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:36 pm These ratings are awful.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:36 pm These ratings are awful.

I've done the names for you so copy and paste with your own, be interested to see which direction you revise them in

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:44 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:36 pm These ratings are awful.

I've done the names for you so copy and paste with your own, be interested to see which direction you revise them in

I can’t be arsed mate.

EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:53 pm We do seem to be so slow in the build up, got caught out a couple of times in front of goal and were lucky not to concede more. Cisse, who I like and has been a positive addition to the team this year, is oft too ponderous on the ball, and it all slows up.

I felt the forwards did ok today, Johnson does plenty of work without much service, Sotiriou and Wilkinson each had some nice touches, combined well for the goal, but overall they needed more support. JMD took his goal well too.

Just feel we need a couple of decent full backs who are proper full backs - we ended the game with Clay at RB today – and if they don’t offer so much going forward then so be it, good teams are built from the back, and we can’t expect the forwards to always outscore the opposition when we are leaking too many goals.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:56 pm

EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:53 pm We do seem to be so slow in the build up, got caught out a couple of times in front of goal and were lucky not to concede more. Cisse, who I like and has been a positive addition to the team this year, is oft too ponderous on the ball, and it all slows up.

I felt the forwards did ok today, Johnson does plenty of work without much service, Sotiriou and Wilkinson each had some nice touches, combined well for the goal, but overall they needed more support. JMD took his goal well too.

Just feel we need a couple of decent full backs who are proper full backs - we ended the game with Clay at RB today – and if they don’t offer so much going forward then so be it, good teams are built from the back, and we can’t expect the forwards to always outscore the opposition when we are leaking too many goals.

How can you have watched that today and concluded our fullbacks were the issue?

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:44 pm Outplayed for the second game running. I know we have decent players but everything is so slow, especially when you compare us to sides we come up against. When it comes down to it Embleton isn't up to the job and doesn't know how to set a side up properly.

We have three players up front who are capable of contributing 40 goals a season between them but insist on playing two of them as wingers (they ignored the script in the 4th minute, resulting in an excellent goal). Johnson's conversion rate is probably the best in the division at the moment but we feed him scraps. It didn't help that two of our central mids were off their game today (they were at fault for a goal each), and the other was Wright who, even when he's on his game, wouldn't know a decisive pass if it was staring at him. Brophy is a winger and these days only gets forward when we are chasing the game late on. We've brought in Akinola and played him out of position and when we did move him to his correct position put a midfielder in at right back even though Ling was on the bench.

What madness is this! It's time to bring somebody in who knows what he's doing and can get the best out of a squad more than capable of being upper top half rather than being a few points off National League where we will end up under Embleton.

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:05 pm Correct me if I'm wrong but since he took over after Fletcher was let go his record is W6 D9 L10. That equates to 50 points per season, it won't get us relegated but it won't get us out of the bottom six either.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:56 pm

EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:53 pm We do seem to be so slow in the build up, got caught out a couple of times in front of goal and were lucky not to concede more. Cisse, who I like and has been a positive addition to the team this year, is oft too ponderous on the ball, and it all slows up.

I felt the forwards did ok today, Johnson does plenty of work without much service, Sotiriou and Wilkinson each had some nice touches, combined well for the goal, but overall they needed more support. JMD took his goal well too.

Just feel we need a couple of decent full backs who are proper full backs - we ended the game with Clay at RB today – and if they don’t offer so much going forward then so be it, good teams are built from the back, and we can’t expect the forwards to always outscore the opposition when we are leaking too many goals.

How can you have watched that today and concluded our fullbacks were the issue?

POSHO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:29 am The noticeable thing fo me was how they broke through our midfield ranks with pace and good passing. Much more mobile than us. I texted my son during the first half and said that we are going to concede a cricket score that's how dangerous I thought Grimsby were at that time and the winner was set up by drive and pace. Midfield will get us relegated

Stowaway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:47 pm It’s just as well spectators aren’t allowed in to games, as I can’t believe anyone would pay to watch the crap we’re coming up with. It’s been the same since Edinburgh died.