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Re: The trans debate

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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 pm You're probably right, but I would not want to tell someone they are in the 'wrong' body. We don't medically treat gay people so why trans? I prefer the path of acceptance.
Isnt it trans people who tell others they
are in the wrong body ?
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:17 pm Sid absolutely embarrassing PW on this thread :lol:
Oh please. I might rename his account Uncle Albert. "During the war..."
I doubt very much that Uncle Albert would be interested in the subject of Transsexual people.
Obvious but I was not in WW2 or in fact in any war. I am also am very anti going to any of the wars of recent times. Also only been in a boat the once, a ferry to the Isle of Wight !
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Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:04 pm You're an odd chap
You’re a touchy chap.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 pm You're probably right, but I would not want to tell someone they are in the 'wrong' body. We don't medically treat gay people so why trans? I prefer the path of acceptance.
What’s gay people got to do with trans people?
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Ask Sid, he brought them into this.
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Disoriented wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:21 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:04 pm You're an odd chap
You’re a touchy chap.
OK boomer
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Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:00 am
Disoriented wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:21 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:04 pm You're an odd chap
You’re a touchy chap.
OK boomer
Joe Bugner had a better comeback than that fella.
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He did the catchphrase :D
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Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:08 pm He did the catchphrase :D
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 pm You're probably right, but I would not want to tell someone they are in the 'wrong' body. We don't medically treat gay people so why trans? I prefer the path of acceptance.
You're not comparing apples with apples. You're a smart bloke, think it though. Hint: who wants what.
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I'm aware of that. Its just an example, the treatment would not be ethical would it?
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So you're aware your example isn't relevant but you'll stick with it. Good stuff.

What about women who have post mastectomy breast reconstruction, should they just accept their lot? Or people with aromatase deficiency which means they can't produce estrogen?
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Theres lots of examples yes. Its where you draw the line.
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So, to summarise. You think, despite your admitted lack of knowledge, that you are better placed than a person with direct experience to decide what treatment they can and can't have, there is a line somewhere on what treatment is acceptable but you can't say where it is.
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I think they should not use puberty blocker drugs on children.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:14 am I think they should not use puberty blocker drugs on children.
I think I'd have to spend time with kids in this situation to form an opinion. There doesn't seem to be much research on it. Certainly none of sufficient depth and quality that I can find.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:14 am I think they should not use puberty blocker drugs on children.
Who else would they use them on?
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Mick McQuaid wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:09 am So, to summarise. You think, despite your admitted lack of knowledge, that you are better placed than a person with direct experience to decide what treatment they can and can't have, there is a line somewhere on what treatment is acceptable but you can't say where it is.
It's like trying to reason with that bloke down the pub who sits on his own cos everyone avoids him. He always knows best, although he's not sure what he knows.
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BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:21 pm
Mick McQuaid wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:09 am So, to summarise. You think, despite your admitted lack of knowledge, that you are better placed than a person with direct experience to decide what treatment they can and can't have, there is a line somewhere on what treatment is acceptable but you can't say where it is.
It's like trying to reason with that bloke down the pub who sits on his own cos everyone avoids him. He always knows best, although he's not sure what he knows.
Are the personal attacks really necessary?
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Re: The trans debate

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This thread, and some of the posts, as completely embarrassing.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:24 pm
BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:21 pm
Mick McQuaid wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:09 am So, to summarise. You think, despite your admitted lack of knowledge, that you are better placed than a person with direct experience to decide what treatment they can and can't have, there is a line somewhere on what treatment is acceptable but you can't say where it is.
It's like trying to reason with that bloke down the pub who sits on his own cos everyone avoids him. He always knows best, although he's not sure what he knows.
Are the personal attacks really necessary?
Do you really take that as a personal attack? Seriously?
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Tell me what it is then. Do you see me making remarks about you?
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