The trans debate

[Friend or faux]

CEB your initials are all over this thread like a rash. Is this prurient curiosity an indication that one day we might expect to see you turn up at the ground wearing a frock? Oh! Wait a minute, you don't seem to have any interest at all in Orient playing football; ( in that case Rodney you'd better stick to your crayons { surely that should be Dave } ).

[CEB]

That’s three ticks on my CEBingo card

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Frock is such a strange word to use

[Max B Gold]

Frock is such a strange word to use

Rhymes with cock though. Which is central to the debate and handy If anyone wants to compose a poem or maybe a limerick.

[Sid Bishop]

Frock is such a strange word to use

Rhymes with cock though. Which is central to the debate and handy If anyone wants to compose a poem or maybe a limerick.

OMG, you are trespassing on CEB's thread !

[Friend or faux]

RTW:- Frock is such a strange word to use
Me:- It is an outdated not much used word and is kinda boring. I thought it links well with CEB. Seeing as his initials are much overworked on this thread.

[The Reverend]

RTW:- Frock is such a strange word to use
Me:- It is an outdated not much used word and is kinda boring. I thought it links well with CEB. Seeing as his initials are much overworked on this thread.

You’d better be careful. He’s probably preparing a YouTube video about you to post on another platform and is gearing up to click the like button on a load of your posts from well over a year ago so that you are greeted with 10 notifications from him when you next log in. If you had a display picture he’d be looking to nab that as well.

[CEB]

1: I had this profile picture before you did

2: I have no idea what you mean by YouTube video. I never posted any YouTube video

[Hoover Attack]

one day we might expect to see you turn up at the ground wearing a frock? Oh! Wait a minute, you don't seem to have any interest at all in Orient playing football

You're getting confused with Hi Doug.

[CEB]

I’ve worn a dress and make up plenty of times anyway.

Genuinely hilarious how many people still haven’t picked up on my most basic position on this, which is “gender non conformity is a great thing that I support wholeheartedly”

[Long slender neck]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... m-18-to-16

Sweden lowers legal age to change gender to 16, with no diagnosis required after cases up 1500%

What could possibly go wrong?

[ChorizO]

Good grief.

[Dunners]

I can't wait to see the research that backs up this claim.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Born a trans woman?

What if the perpetrator is a trans man?

[Long slender neck]

proposed offences in a misogyny bill should apply where the victims are ‘women or those who perpetrators perceive to be women’ this aligns with existing legislation protecting people from abuse that is motivated by prejudice.

I think what hes saying sounds alright.

[CEB]

What he’s saying would be fair if it were the case that the abuse/harassment that men who believe themselves to be women is receive was carried out because the harassers believed them to be women.

In fact, a moments thought would make it obvious that that carries with it an assumption that “passing” is a default state for “trans women”, when that is not the case at all.

In practice, abuse and harassment received by men who believe themselves to be women is overwhelmingly likely to be because they are recognised as male, ie they’re abused for being *trans* not for being *women* (because they aren’t women, and often aren’t perceived as women)

It does raise this as an interesting hypothetical situation:

A woman and a man who believes himself to be a woman walk down the street.
A workman shouts “oi oi ladies, get your tits out you slaaaaags!”
They turn round.
The workman sees that one of the people he catcalled is male.
He says “sorry mate, I thought you were a woman!”

Which person was the victim of the worst crime?
A: the woman who was catcalled and received no apology
B: the man who received an apology for the catcalling, on the basis that the cat caller doesn’t respect his gender identity

[Max B Gold]

Frock is such a strange word to use

Rhymes with cock though. Which is central to the debate and handy If anyone wants to compose a poem or maybe a limerick.

Someone has PMd me a limerick, presumably because they are too chickenshit scared to post it themselves.

Do youse want me to post it? Warning: it is a bit Rube.

[Dunners]

You promised me you wouldn't share that!

[CEB]

A Scotchman once claimed that I hated
A community, and so I awaited
News of my hateful views
But while soaked in booze
Max missed that I’ve been vindicated

[Hoover Attack]

You promised me you wouldn't share that!

Where did you C&P it from?

[Max B Gold]

A Scotchman once claimed that I hated
A community, and so I awaited
News of my hateful views
But while soaked in booze
Max missed that I’ve been vindicated

Well that's a bit racist.

[Max B Gold]

You promised me you wouldn't share that!

I did but what the hell

There once was a boy called keef,
who dated a girl with big teeth,
he lifted her frock and there was her cock
And he slid down its covered sheath

[CEB]

2/10 I could do a much better job roasting myself on this subject

CEB, the once left wing pranny
His obsession with gender? uncanny!
To solve this great mystery
Best check his porn history
Cos you’ll find there nothing but… oh, disappointingly for this limerick, lesbian foot fetish

[Currywurst and Chips]

There once was a man from China
Who wasn’t a very good climber

You know the rest…….

[CEB]

Trans activists having a normal one in response to Cass