Crowd pilot scheme put on hold.

[Top of the JES]

Streaming only for the fore seeable future.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Good

[ComeOnYouOs]

It wouldnt surprise me, if not a single fan was admitted to any league grounds all season ( unless youre one of the podcast guys lol )
Covid is going to second spike & no one knows at this point, just how awful things will be in a couple of months

[Real Al]

Problem is, government ministers own Central London office buildings, not football clubs.

[spen666]

Problem is, government ministers own Central London office buildings, not football clubs.

Another bit of Fake News

Which Central London Office Buildings are owned by which Government Ministers?

Let's have a detailed list. ....

[Long slender neck]

Good

Not if you bought a ST

[Real Al]

Problem is, government ministers own Central London office buildings, not football clubs.

Another bit of Fake News

Which Central London Office Buildings are owned by which Government Ministers?

Let's have a detailed list. ....

You're right of course, my mistake is forgetting that Jeremy Hunt, who owns half of an office building in Hammersmith, and recently encouraged workers back to their offices, is no longer a minister.

And obviously we have no idea what property developer Alan Massie donated £30,000 to Michael Gove for.

However, there is this...

List of Ministers’ Interests
As at July 2020
Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
1. Financial interests Retail property ownership through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd

Commercial property in Surrey, purchased on 29 September 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 14 October 2015; updated 28 October 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 4 December 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 08 December 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 29 March 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 04 April 2016)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 5 July 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 19 July 2016)

Then there's Robert Jenrick's dodgy property associations.

Oh look, I'm not an investigative journalist, but you get the picture.

[gshaw]

Personally I'm kinda pleased about this. The thought of potentially being told we have to attend games requisite with masks, social distancing and a "code of conduct" leaves me cold. Add to that the difficulties getting there by car if continuing to avoid public transport means the stream becomes a far more attractive option all round.

[spen666]

Problem is, government ministers own Central London office buildings, not football clubs.

Another bit of Fake News

Which Central London Office Buildings are owned by which Government Ministers?

Let's have a detailed list. ....

You're right of course, my mistake is forgetting that Jeremy Hunt, who owns half of an office building in Hammersmith, and recently encouraged workers back to their offices, is no longer a minister.

And obviously we have no idea what property developer Alan Massie donated £30,000 to Michael Gove for.

However, there is this...

List of Ministers’ Interests
As at July 2020
Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
1. Financial interests Retail property ownership through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd

Commercial property in Surrey, purchased on 29 September 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 14 October 2015; updated 28 October 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 4 December 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 08 December 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 29 March 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 04 April 2016)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 5 July 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 19 July 2016)

Then there's Robert Jenrick's dodgy property associations.

Oh look, I'm not an investigative journalist, but you get the picture.

So not a single Central London office building owned by a Government Minister that you can name then

Like I said you are posting fake news.

Irs easy to be a keyboard warrior and post lies

[Disoriented]

Another bit of Fake News

Which Central London Office Buildings are owned by which Government Ministers?

Let's have a detailed list. ....

You're right of course, my mistake is forgetting that Jeremy Hunt, who owns half of an office building in Hammersmith, and recently encouraged workers back to their offices, is no longer a minister.

And obviously we have no idea what property developer Alan Massie donated £30,000 to Michael Gove for.

However, there is this...

List of Ministers’ Interests
As at July 2020
Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
1. Financial interests Retail property ownership through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd

Commercial property in Surrey, purchased on 29 September 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 14 October 2015; updated 28 October 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 4 December 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 08 December 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 29 March 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 04 April 2016)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 5 July 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 19 July 2016)

Then there's Robert Jenrick's dodgy property associations.

Oh look, I'm not an investigative journalist, but you get the picture.

So not a single Central London office building owned by a Government Minister that you can name then

Like I said you are posting fake news.

Irs easy to be a keyboard warrior and post lies

Like you insisted elsewhere that crowds would be allowed into games to start the season.

[spen666]

You're right of course, my mistake is forgetting that Jeremy Hunt, who owns half of an office building in Hammersmith, and recently encouraged workers back to their offices, is no longer a minister.

And obviously we have no idea what property developer Alan Massie donated £30,000 to Michael Gove for.

However, there is this...

List of Ministers’ Interests
As at July 2020
Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
1. Financial interests Retail property ownership through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd

Commercial property in Surrey, purchased on 29 September 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 14 October 2015; updated 28 October 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 4 December 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 08 December 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 29 March 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 04 April 2016)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 5 July 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 19 July 2016)

Then there's Robert Jenrick's dodgy property associations.

Oh look, I'm not an investigative journalist, but you get the picture.

So not a single Central London office building owned by a Government Minister that you can name then

Like I said you are posting fake news.

Irs easy to be a keyboard warrior and post lies

Like you insisted elsewhere that crowds would be allowed into games to start the season.

Where did I say that or is this more fake news.

[Adz]

Vaccine will be forced through by christmas, crowds will be back on in jan

[Dunners]

No it won't. A proven safe vaccine is a long way off and may never be available. What we have done, however, is develope and refine treatments that are very effective and have significantly reduced the hospitalisation and fatality rates even further. And they were bloody low to begin with.

[Clive Evans]

Spen 69 said "Irs easy to be a keyboard warrior and post lies"
It is equally easy to demand challenges that are nigh on impossible to fulfill. Anybody with half a brain ( that probably excludes you Spen ), knows that in the mirky World of property, people go to remarkable lengths to muddy the waters. They form Companies, which then form subsidiary Companies often headquartered in obscure Countries. Often making wives or children major shareholders. I don't think too many Tory MP's are there to change the World. They are driven by selfish desires.

[spen666]

Spen 69 said "Irs easy to be a keyboard warrior and post lies"
It is equally easy to demand challenges that are nigh on impossible to fulfill. Anybody with half a brain ( that probably excludes you Spen ), knows that in the mirky World of property, people go to remarkable lengths to muddy the waters. They form Companies, which then form subsidiary Companies often headquartered in obscure Countries. Often making wives or children major shareholders. I don't think too many Tory MP's are there to change the World. They are driven by selfish desires.

All I asked for was evidence to back up the fake news claims by a keyboard warrior.

If said keyboard warrior is making claims, then presumably they have evidence to support their claims.

Alternatively perhaps they are just making false claims to back up their prejudicial position


Nothing unreasonable in adking for evidence to support their "factual" statement, so we can all assess the merit and credibility of their claims

However. if it is another bit of fake news....

[spen666]

Vaccine will be forced through by christmas, crowds will be back on in jan

Would that be the vaccine they have suspended the trial of?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... strazeneca


Any evidence to support your claims?

[moonwalk19]

Problem is, government ministers own Central London office buildings, not football clubs.

Another bit of Fake News

Which Central London Office Buildings are owned by which Government Ministers?

Let's have a detailed list. ....

You're right of course, my mistake is forgetting that Jeremy Hunt, who owns half of an office building in Hammersmith, and recently encouraged workers back to their offices, is no longer a minister.

And obviously we have no idea what property developer Alan Massie donated £30,000 to Michael Gove for.

However, there is this...

List of Ministers’ Interests
As at July 2020
Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
1. Financial interests Retail property ownership through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd

Commercial property in Surrey, purchased on 29 September 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 14 October 2015; updated 28 October 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 4 December 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 08 December 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 29 March 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 04 April 2016)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 5 July 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 19 July 2016)

Then there's Robert Jenrick's dodgy property associations.

Oh look, I'm not an investigative journalist, but you get the picture.

Let’s get away from meaningless quotes that have no bearing on football at the Os. This is a forum about the Os.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Isn't the pilot being reviewed rather than being suspended? Heard that it could still end up with 1k per game depending on capacity.

[Adz]

Vaccine will be forced through by christmas, crowds will be back on in jan

Would that be the vaccine they have suspended the trial of?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... strazeneca


Any evidence to support your claims?

Standard part of vaccine testing. There's others globally also in stage 3 testing. I reckon they'll get one over the line by the end of the year

[Thor]

I don’t think so adz. Aren’t they still trying to find a vaccine for sars? What’s that timeline 15 years? There will not be one along anytime soon for covid.

It’s looking like heard immunity is how we will get through this.

[spen666]

I don’t think so adz. Aren’t they still trying to find a vaccine for sars? What’s that timeline 15 years? There will not be one along anytime soon for covid.

It’s looking like heard immunity is how we will get through this.

Still trying to find a vaccine for AIDS 40 years on

[Thor]

Exactly.

[Adz]

I don’t think so adz. Aren’t they still trying to find a vaccine for sars? What’s that timeline 15 years? There will not be one along anytime soon for covid.

It’s looking like heard immunity is how we will get through this.

They had a vaccine for sars, but there was no financial sense in moving it towards. That's why they were able to get the covid vaccine out so quickly, as they could build on it.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

I don’t think so adz. Aren’t they still trying to find a vaccine for sars? What’s that timeline 15 years? There will not be one along anytime soon for covid.

It’s looking like heard immunity is how we will get through this.

Still trying to find a vaccine for AIDS 40 years on

Wouldn't they be better trying to find a vaccine for HIV?

[Sid Bishop]

Problem is, government ministers own Central London office buildings, not football clubs.

Another bit of Fake News

Which Central London Office Buildings are owned by which Government Ministers?

Let's have a detailed list. ....

You're right of course, my mistake is forgetting that Jeremy Hunt, who owns half of an office building in Hammersmith, and recently encouraged workers back to their offices, is no longer a minister.

And obviously we have no idea what property developer Alan Massie donated £30,000 to Michael Gove for.

However, there is this...

List of Ministers’ Interests
As at July 2020
Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
1. Financial interests Retail property ownership through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd

Commercial property in Surrey, purchased on 29 September 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 14 October 2015; updated 28 October 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 4 December 2015 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 08 December 2015)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 29 March 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 04 April 2016)
Commercial property in London, purchased on 5 July 2016 and rented out through Zahawi & Zahawi Ltd: (i) and (ii). (Registered 19 July 2016)

Then there's Robert Jenrick's dodgy property associations.

Oh look, I'm not an investigative journalist, but you get the picture.

What has all that got to do with restricting to let people into sports stadiums whilst we have this Covid 19 virus around infecting and killing many people ? Would you prefer no restrictions at all, no masks, no social distancing and a general free for all of the survival of the fittest ?