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Re: Discrimination

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Poor attempt at a wum. Don’t have a clue what you’re trying to say if not
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Re: Discrimination

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I think football is unique, you wouldn't interview lots of players for a position then appoint like a regular job.
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Re: Discrimination

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It’s not just recruitment of players though - what about how they’re treated as equal employees within a team?

No idea what point Uppy’s trying to make though.
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Re: Discrimination

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Well, if your point is "I don't want any discrimination within team selection", then hear hear.
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Re: Discrimination

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Wally Banter wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:25 pm Well, if your point is "I don't want any discrimination within team selection", then hear hear.
Really,

I do want lots of discrimination.

I want the best players picked and the worst not. Tgat is discragaibst those with a lack of ability.


There is nothing wrong per se with discrimination. We all discriminate whether its in choice of shoos we use,people we like, football teams we like
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Re: Discrimination

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Ah right. Yeah definitely, nepotism as well as it being a boys club where people who are mates with the powers that be get contact extensions and/or coaching roles. So discrimination maybe not the right word but iffy decisions not based on talent - definitely
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Re: Discrimination

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Another word overused and thrown around to cause controversy.

Any manager at any club will pick what they feel to be the best team to win a game.
Every fan will have their opinion on what their team would be.
Just because the two don't match it is not discrimination.

There may be an element of favouritism in that a manager may trust one player over another to play a particular role but I think that to suggest discrimination is insulting to a manager.
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Re: Discrimination

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spen666 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:37 pm
Wally Banter wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:25 pm Well, if your point is "I don't want any discrimination within team selection", then hear hear.
Really,

I do want lots of discrimination.

I want the best players picked and the worst not. Tgat is discragaibst those with a lack of ability.

There is nothing wrong per se with discrimination. We all discriminate whether its in choice of shoos we use,people we like, football teams we like
I was using the term in the context of the topic at hand - i.e. discriminating against someone in respect of a protected characteristic. But you knew that.
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Re: Discrimination

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Still don’t get it
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Re: Discrimination

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Wally Banter wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:50 pm
spen666 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:37 pm
Wally Banter wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:25 pm Well, if your point is "I don't want any discrimination within team selection", then hear hear.
Really,

I do want lots of discrimination.

I want the best players picked and the worst not. Tgat is discragaibst those with a lack of ability.

There is nothing wrong per se with discrimination. We all discriminate whether its in choice of shoos we use,people we like, football teams we like
I was using the term in the context of the topic at hand - i.e. discriminating against someone in respect of a protected characteristic. But you knew that.
Nobody had mentioned anything about protected characteristics in this thread, merely discrimination at large.


There is no suggestion that there has been and discrimination in relation to protected characteristics
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Re: Discrimination

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Well, I'm here to inform you that this thread relates to the EFL's Not Today Or Any Day campaign to tackle discrimination in the League. I'm assuming 'discrimination', in the scope of this campaign, does not include things like choosing which boots to wear.
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Re: Discrimination

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UpminsterO wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:18 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:43 pm Another word overused and thrown around to cause controversy.

Any manager at any club will pick what they feel to be the best team to win a game.
Every fan will have their opinion on what their team would be.
Just because the two don't match it is not discrimination.

There may be an element of favouritism in that a manager may trust one player over another to play a particular role but I think that to suggest discrimination is insulting to a manager.
Not thrown around look simply if you have not got the capacity to think the original thought out why bother making a assumed perception which is not correct

I tell you what the thought pattern is too much for fans on here best just let it drop I should not of bothered with the topic

Just forget it
Perhaps if you thought out your post rather than having a brain fart on paper then people would not have to assumptions to what was meant.

Also interested to understand how your Hornchurch supporting mate knows me as i have never been to an Hornchurch game in my life. :lol:
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Re: Discrimination

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I’m sure Ross chooses the team based on who he feels likely makes the best contribution for the upcoming game, opposition, style and importance, player skills, temperament, past performance, fitness, attitude. Having weighed it all up, Ling get the nod for the important stuff.

Fair enough.
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Re: Discrimination

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Wally Banter wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:37 pm Well, I'm here to inform you that this thread relates to the EFL's Not Today Or Any Day campaign to tackle discrimination in the League. I'm assuming 'discrimination', in the scope of this campaign, does not include things like choosing which boots to wear.

Pissing in the wind but I appreciate the effort.
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Re: Discrimination

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UpminsterO wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:04 pm The club have stated that this is not tolerated - fine I agree totally

I acknowledge the club have made a drastic effort to improve all aspects of the club- football / investment / running of the club

Is it fair to assume that discrimination does not extend to all the players selection - ie it's natural in life for anyone to favour a person if they like them above others we are all human
"The club have stated that this is not tolerated"

Well, they're not going to state that it is tolerated are they ?
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Re: Discrimination

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UpminsterO wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:12 pm
1. Any post that made an assumption on the original post is a result of their own intellect or ability - but I won't discriminate in my reply -however I guess you need to realease any excess air in private not in public - thanks
Really? Pompous tw*t.
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Re: Discrimination

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Do you suspect that the coaching staff 'like' some players more than others? Perhaps they could publish a ranking of all the players based on how matey they are with them?
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