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tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:40 pm Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.

As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:40 pm Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.

As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:23 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:40 pm Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.

As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)

Some time back I posted stats that showed defensively we conceded fewer goals when Judd played than when Ling played. Including more clean sheets. The stats related to a season when both played a decent number of games. Stats that favoured Judd in his primary role of defence.

Of course these stats, like yours, prove very little because so many other factors come in to play, including for example Head Coach instructions on how to play.

Stats are clearly taken more seriously now but they will never be the be all and end all when deciding who is best. Boss and the coaches will use their eyes. Preseason Judd has been better. But it looks like both are relegated.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:37 am Judd to stay as back up for Jordan ,Ling to go if anyone will take him.

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:29 pm I'm awaiting confirmation but I believe Ling's contract is up at the end of this season. Presumably if we don't play him he'll walk away on a free and be able to have his pick of clubs in the football league.

The only way to get him to stay and stop rivals enticing him away is to play him regularly and offer him a new improved contract asap.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:40 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.

Could be worth a try, who knows, might suit him better to play in that position ?

Glenthorne wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pm I feel the decision on whether Ling or Judd stays will be dependent on which one the club gets an offer for.
I feel that the reason Ling played last 2 friendlies was more to showcase him than team building.

Glenthorne wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pm I feel the decision on whether Ling or Judd stays will be dependent on which one the club gets an offer for.
I feel that the reason Ling played last 2 friendlies was more to showcase him than team building.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:54 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.

I believe he actually had his first pro as a central midfielder, or converted very close to it. He definitely played U18 games there and was much better in that position. Genuinely quite creative (as opposed to now). I've often thought it strange he's not at least had a few games in that position. Maybe he hates it? I think its worth a go.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:28 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "

No way did Embelton seriously think that.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:31 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:28 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "

No way did Embelton seriously think that.

You calling him a liar? tuffers is outside your house mate