Independent Leyton Orient Forum

This is a positive thread, bigging up our homegrown and still very young right back who's come in for a lot of negativity from our fans and our managers/directors.

The facts:

• Judd become one of our youngest players ever, making his debut for us in a completive game at just 16.

• Judd won the League Two Apprentice of the year when he was just 18 years old

• Judd played almost a full season in League Two and was probably our best player in that horrible season

• Judd hasn't played a game for us above the age of 20.

• Judd has been with Orient for half of his life - Orient through and through and a product of our academy

• When given consistent spells in the team he has shone. A lot of people were shouting about extending him a few years ago when he came in and was man of the match at least a couple of times at 18/19.

• He is positive and aggressive in the tackle

• He is better than any of our fullbacks going forward

Today I hereby kick off the campaign to get Myles in the starting XI for the first game of the season. The kid needs playing time, first and foremost. If we let one of our home grown players, who is still incredibly young and has a load of potential, not play and just leave then i dont think we are fulfilling our responsibility to our young players.

Myles has shone when given playing time in some ridiculously tough times. He's obviously mentally strong for a young kid but has had his confidence knocked several times by being called out directly by managers in post game interviews, or by Directors who thinks it's good for a young players progress to tell the fanbase that he's not professional enough. Add to that managers, coaches and players all publicly calling him thick - i think the lad deserves a chance.

Sure, he has areas of improvements. He does dive in too much, his positive aggression can sometimes get him in trouble but at 21 years old, with some decent coaching i'm stating here that I believe in you Myles. I believe that you can come good and keep developing at Orient over the next few years, get good coaching, get good playing time and turn into a massive part of this clubs future. Sign below if you're with me and add anything i've missed.

I'll leave you with this quote from when he won apprentice of the year.

“He’s very professional. He turns up on a day-to-day basis and fulfils all his other responsibilities before he goes out and trains. He always gives his best in everything he does and has become a role model for the other young players to look up to.

“His transition from the youth team to the first team has been seamless which is testament to his professionalism. He’s also been able to use that professionalism in the classroom where he has made extraordinary progress.”

Hi Myles

Glad everyone agrees

Case against

He ain't very bright which has been a problem for whoever has been responsible for the first team. When his contract ends, it won't be renewed

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:06 pm Case against

He ain't very bright which has been a problem for whoever has been responsible for the first team. When his contract ends, it won't be renewed

Sam Ling and Craig Clay joined Mensa in the close season, I heard. It's important for footballers to be clever so think they will improve this year.

Ling does have a big throw, and he does have a big dad who has a big influence on all the big decisions !

Judd along with virtually every other 16 yr old yourh team player made debuts under bealzebub .
He got rid of all the players

Judd was part of a defence that conceded 87 goals
When he was just 16

Judd played 20 games the season we went down & 19 last year

He wasnt man of the match in 99 % of the games he has played,

Judd is orient through & through
We have always looked out for waifs & strays

Judd will be part of the Orient squad & will be valued

Not unfavourably so ,
he is no Stuart Pearce

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:25 pm Judd along with virtually every other 16 yr old yourh team player made debuts under bealzebub .
He got rid of all the players

Judd was part of a defence that conceded 87 goals
When he was just 16

Judd played 20 games the season we went down & 19 last year

He wasnt man of the match in 99 % of the games he has played,

Judd is orient through & through
We have always looked out for waifs & strays

Judd will be part of the Orient squad & will be valued

Not unfavourably so ,
he is no Stuart Pearce

Hi Sam

The only case you need is he isn’t as sh*t as Sam Ling

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:45 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:25 pm Judd along with virtually every other 16 yr old yourh team player made debuts under bealzebub .
He got rid of all the players

Judd was part of a defence that conceded 87 goals
When he was just 16

Judd played 20 games the season we went down & 19 last year

He wasnt man of the match in 99 % of the games he has played,

Judd is orient through & through
We have always looked out for waifs & strays

Judd will be part of the Orient squad & will be valued

Not unfavourably so ,
he is no Stuart Pearce

Hi Sam

Hey multiples of one thousand seven hundred & sixty yards

Dont worry lad , when im injured you can play.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:53 pm The only case you need is he isn’t as sh*t as Sam Ling

Has Judd represented England at any level yet ?

Puts that to bed then eh

This is a positive thread about home grown player, who’s only 21, getting a chance to shine.

Take your negativity somewhere else

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:30 pm This is a positive thread about home grown player, who’s only 21, getting a chance to shine.

Take your negativity somewhere else

Ok Tubbs

Useful squad player. Will have to find some consistency when he gets his chance.

Judd is not L2 standard end off, he’s distribution is terrible & he cannot defend, 2 important attributes for a RB, then again Ling is not much better...
So unless we get a new RB, we are left with both for the season

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:04 pm Judd is not L2 standard end off, he’s distribution is terrible & he cannot defend, 2 important attributes for a RB, then again Ling is not much better...
So unless we get a new RB, we are left with both for the season

Ling jnr has worn an England C shirt though

So cant be that desperate

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:04 pm Judd is not L2 standard end off, he’s distribution is terrible & he cannot defend, 2 important attributes for a RB, then again Ling is not much better...
So unless we get a new RB, we are left with both for the season

You think a player who’s been a prospect at every level is not going to improve despite not playing a game above the age of 20?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:17 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:04 pm Judd is not L2 standard end off, he’s distribution is terrible & he cannot defend, 2 important attributes for a RB, then again Ling is not much better...
So unless we get a new RB, we are left with both for the season

Ling jnr has worn an England C shirt though

So cant be that desperate

He’s no ‘Ooh Terry Howard’
Who’s England C shirt did Ling wear

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:50 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:17 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:04 pm Judd is not L2 standard end off, he’s distribution is terrible & he cannot defend, 2 important attributes for a RB, then again Ling is not much better...
So unless we get a new RB, we are left with both for the season

Ling jnr has worn an England C shirt though

So cant be that desperate

He’s no ‘Ooh Terry Howard’
Who’s England C shirt did Ling wear

His own

Jesus christ. Playing for England C is an acheivement now? Now I’m certain tuffers is a WUM. Always was tedious.

Who are "you" petitioning? Sounds like its the people's court that is this forum - which makes this thread a waste of time.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:52 pm Jesus christ. Playing for England C is an acheivement now? Now I’m certain tuffers is a WUM. Always was tedious.

Have you EVER represented your country at anything ?

I doubt it , but you keep knocking away theres a good lad

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:30 pm This is a positive thread about home grown player, who’s only 21, getting a chance to shine.

Take your negativity somewhere else

Sam Ling is a homegrown player...

A home grown player that we binned off.