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Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:55 am**

The Gloves are off

Great Speech

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:43 am**

A 77 year old V a 74 year old. At 72 I find it quite hard running an end of terrace house in Grays. Why do the Yanks want these geriatrics?

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:42 am**

West Side Story wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:43 am A 77 year old V a 74 year old. At 72 I find it quite hard running an end of terrace house in Grays. Why do the Yanks want these geriatrics?

Both parties have some good and much younger people than these two. I think a lot of it comes down to MONEY !!
You need to be very rich or to be able to get lots of cash donations to be able to run for President.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:07 am**

Bret Stephens, a conservative columnist at the New York Times, recently wrote that supporting Biden is about “embracing mediocrity to ward off malevolence”.

I think that just about sums it up for me too.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:26 am**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:55 am

The Gloves are off

Great Speech

Probably written for him by somebody else. The man is showing signs of getting dementia.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:39 am**

The Gloves are off

Great Speech

How can you be celebrating a 77 year old attempting to be President. The 74 year old is clearly not up to it, and that's not just his politics. Surely a case of " fresh legs ".

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:22 am**

West Side Story wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:39 am The Gloves are off

Great Speech

How can you be celebrating a 77 year old attempting to be President. The 74 year old is clearly not up to it, and that's not just his politics. Surely a case of " fresh legs ".

American politics needs a different system whereby being elected to head of your political party and running for President does not depend on you having to be a Millionaire.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:03 pm**

Maybe there should also be an upper age limit. Who wants an 80 year old with his finger on the nuclear button

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:55 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:26 am
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:55 am

The Gloves are off

Great Speech
Probably written for him by somebody else. The man is showing signs of getting dementia.

Of course it was written by somebody else .

Can you give specific reasons why you think he is suffering from dementia ?

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:59 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:03 pm Maybe there should also be an upper age limit. Who wants an 80 year old with his finger on the nuclear button

Have you seen a 70+ year old trying to get out of there chair then
Teeter over to the man drawer looking for the take away menu .
Half hour later they have to totter back for there glasses so
They can see properly .

Plenty of time to move the button to another drawer !

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:00 pm**

The Democrats are running an awful campaign so far.

I’ve watched a few of the speakers at the DNC, and most seem to follow the following pattern:

1. Trump is an awful man because [reasons].
2. Therefore, you must vote like your “life depends on it.”
3. America is broken because it’s “systematically racist”.
4. America is amazing, because you’re all wonderful too.
5. But we’re not divisive, oh no. We’re unifying. And better. Because we have… erm, empathy. Yeah, that’s it, empathy.
6. Oh, and by the way, Joe Biden for President. I thought I’d better mention his name at some point.

If I was a swing voter in the US, I’d not have a f*cking clue about a single thing the Democrats would do should they win power. They’re not asking for voters to necessarily vote for anything, only against something. And as a strategy, whenever it has been used previously, it has always been unsuccessful.

What a horribly vacuous and divisive campaign so far. Biden has managed to keep ahead in the polls, but only because he has been absent so far. If they lose this election it will be thoroughly deserved.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:47 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:00 pm

The Republicans s are running an awful campaign so far.

I’ve watched a few of the speakers at the RNC, and most seem to follow the following pattern:

1. Biden is an awful man because [reasons].
2. Therefore, you must vote like your “life depends on it.”
3. America is broken because it's “systematically racist”.
4. America is amazing, because Trump is wonderful too.
5. But we’re not divisive, oh no. We’re unifying. And better. Because we have… erm, empathy. Yeah, that’s it, empathy.
6. Oh, and by the way, Donald for President. I thought I’d better mention his name at some point.

If I was a swing voter in the US, I’d not have a f*cking clue about a single thing the Republicans s would do should they win power. They’re not asking for voters to necessarily vote for anything, only against something. And as a strategy, whenever it has been used previously, it has always been unsuccessful.

What a horribly vacuous and divisive campaign so far. Trump has managed to stay behind d in the polls, but only because he has been on twitter & tv so far. If they lose this election it will be thoroughly deserved.

Lets build a Wall everyone

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:01 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:55 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:26 am
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:55 am

The Gloves are off

Great Speech
Probably written for him by somebody else. The man is showing signs of getting dementia.
Of course it was written by somebody else .

Can you give specific reasons why you think he is suffering from dementia ?

He keeps losing his train of thought. Can’t Remember what state he’s in and finds it hard to string two sentences together. If he becomes President, he’ll only be a puppet President with others behind him pulling all the strings

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:04 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:47 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:00 pm
The Republicans s are running an awful campaign so far.

I’ve watched a few of the speakers at the RNC, and most seem to follow the following pattern:

1. Biden is an awful man because [reasons].
2. Therefore, you must vote like your “life depends on it.”
3. America is broken because it's “systematically racist”.
4. America is amazing, because Trump is wonderful too.
5. But we’re not divisive, oh no. We’re unifying. And better. Because we have… erm, empathy. Yeah, that’s it, empathy.
6. Oh, and by the way, Donald for President. I thought I’d better mention his name at some point.

If I was a swing voter in the US, I’d not have a f*cking clue about a single thing the Republicans s would do should they win power. They’re not asking for voters to necessarily vote for anything, only against something. And as a strategy, whenever it has been used previously, it has always been unsuccessful.

What a horribly vacuous and divisive campaign so far. Trump has managed to stay behind d in the polls, but only because he has been on twitter & tv so far. If they lose this election it will be thoroughly deserved.

Lets build a Wall everyone

Yeah , vote Democrat instead and see your Local Police defunded or even dismantled . What could possibly go wrong

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:07 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:01 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:55 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:26 am

Probably written for him by somebody else. The man is showing signs of getting dementia.
Of course it was written by somebody else .

Can you give specific reasons why you think he is suffering from dementia ?
He keeps losing his train of thought. Can’t Remember what state he’s in and finds it hard to string two sentences together. If he becomes President, he’ll only be a puppet President with others behind him pulling all the strings

Do you think he will know the difference between thigh land & thailand.
Do you think he'll tell people to inject Lysol (

) ?

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:09 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:04 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:47 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:00 pm
The Republicans s are running an awful campaign so far.

I’ve watched a few of the speakers at the RNC, and most seem to follow the following pattern:

1. Biden is an awful man because [reasons].
2. Therefore, you must vote like your “life depends on it.”
3. America is broken because it's “systematically racist”.
4. America is amazing, because Trump is wonderful too.
5. But we’re not divisive, oh no. We’re unifying. And better. Because we have… erm, empathy. Yeah, that’s it, empathy.
6. Oh, and by the way, Donald for President. I thought I’d better mention his name at some point.

If I was a swing voter in the US, I’d not have a f*cking clue about a single thing the Republicans s would do should they win power. They’re not asking for voters to necessarily vote for anything, only against something. And as a strategy, whenever it has been used previously, it has always been unsuccessful.

What a horribly vacuous and divisive campaign so far. Trump has managed to stay behind d in the polls, but only because he has been on twitter & tv so far. If they lose this election it will be thoroughly deserved.

Lets build a Wall everyone
Yeah , vote Democrat instead and see your Local Police defunded or even dismantled . What could possibly go wrong

Vote republican & keep people in uniform Killing minority citizens of your own country

What could possibly go wrong ?

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:20 pm**

I think the parents of the seventeen children recently shot in the
mayhem would disagree with you

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:31 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:20 pm I think the parents of the seventeen children recently shot in the
mayhem would disagree with you

I wonder how the loved ones who came down with covid after attending a trump rally feel now ?

Stop backing the NRA & take the guns away
Far less will die .

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:34 pm**

If elected I can't see Biden lasting a term. It's widely known in US that he's in the early stages of dementia. I cynically think he's just the means to get the first female president in the White House. He'll step down and the VP is automatically sworn in.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:39 pm**

cymruO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:34 pm If elected I can't see Biden lasting a term. It's widely known in US that he's in the early stages of dementia. I cynically think he's just the means to get the first female president in the White House. He'll step down and the VP is automatically sworn in.

Great tactics from the Democrats
Get 2-4 years out of Biden
Then let Kamala take it over

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:21 pm**

Great or dishonest?

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:25 pm**

The BBC’s obsession with US politics and elections surfaces again. Given it a separate tab on the Beeb website and already been the lead in one news bulletin. OMG 3 months of this. I’m bored already. I was in the US for the 1997 UK General Election campaign, it barely got a mention on CNN and ABC news, even the win by Blair didn’t get first mention in their bulletins. Anyways that’s my rant done. I’ll not say anymore until after the result.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:29 pm**

Get your money on Trump now while he’s still at longish odds.

Biden has benefited from not having to do anything these last 5 months. As soon as the debates start it’ll be game over for him and Trump’s odds will tumble

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:34 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:21 pm Great or dishonest?

Definitely Great

Nobody knows how if at all how Dementia will affect any individual
I know someone whose had it for 6 years & quite Lesley
Maureen its getting a bit busy down here .

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:03 pm**

when push comes to shove
trump will prevail.

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