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Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:45 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs


For those that missed it last night.

Good to see us going so direct. But the state of our defending for their goals. :o

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:04 am
by Scuba Diver
Ling doing his usual ineffectual nothing-ness for Spurs' first. That isn't going to change, clearly.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:17 am
by Cheshunto
Northampton will be a much tougher test although I think they have lost one of tHeir best players, Charlie Goode to Brentford.
Our attacking play looked good though last night and Jobi at 38 looked one of the sharpest on the pitch.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:56 am
by Top of the JES
The frustration in those highlights is watching their goals both from wide positions which should have been stopped, in fairness to Myles Judd thought he was very good when he came on last night, that said I would like to see Turley get game time on Saturday at full back because out of Ling, Judd and Turley he would be my preferred choice.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:28 am
by faith1234
Anyone know who the trailist that acorwd was

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:29 am
by Disoriented
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:56 am The frustration in those highlights is watching their goals both from wide positions which should have been stopped, in fairness to Myles Judd thought he was very good when he came on last night, that said I would like to see Turley get game time on Saturday at full back because out of Ling, Judd and Turley he would be my preferred choice.
Agree about Judd. If he can stay injury free, this could be his year.

Not convinced about Turley at full back as he lacks pace.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:37 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Scuba Diver wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:04 am Ling doing his usual ineffectual nothing-ness for Spurs' first. That isn't going to change, clearly.
Didn't want to name names or else be accused of having an agenda but yeah, you're right. Doesn't get within touching distance of the fella, just backs off and backs off. Reminds me very much of the late, great Stephen Purchase.

He wasn't much better for the second either, but several others also culpable for that.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:56 am The frustration in those highlights is watching their goals both from wide positions which should have been stopped, in fairness to Myles Judd thought he was very good when he came on last night, that said I would like to see Turley get game time on Saturday at full back because out of Ling, Judd and Turley he would be my preferred choice.
Agreed with Turley being the preferred choice there, but that means Coulson or Widdowson have to start alongside Happe.

I really hope Judd can continue this form and go on and have a great season for us.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Disoriented wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:29 am
Not convinced about Turley at full back as he lacks pace.
:lol:

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:40 am
by Disoriented
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am
Disoriented wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:29 am
Not convinced about Turley at full back as he lacks pace.
:lol:
He’s no Gary Neville fella.😏

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:45 am
by DuvB
Scuba Diver wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:04 am Ling doing his usual ineffectual nothing-ness for Spurs' first. That isn't going to change, clearly.
Ling also played a part in their second goal as well.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:05 am
by Ornchurch
The Orient defending was bad but so was Spurs. I wouldn't base any predictions on that game.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:12 am
by Top of the JES
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:56 am The frustration in those highlights is watching their goals both from wide positions which should have been stopped, in fairness to Myles Judd thought he was very good when he came on last night, that said I would like to see Turley get game time on Saturday at full back because out of Ling, Judd and Turley he would be my preferred choice.
Agreed with Turley being the preferred choice there, but that means Coulson or Widdowson have to start alongside Happe.

I really hope Judd can continue this form and go on and have a great season for us.
The problem is though roles were reversed on Saturday Judd was out of position and lost his man when Reading missed an open goal just before half time a common Judd fault Ling came on and looked good. But that's the dilemma neither is consistantly decent they both look good at times and crap at others. Turley is the second quickest player at the club, no lack of pace. He should be first choice right back and we should concentrate our effort on finding a decent centre half, although scanning through the PFA free agent list last night there wasn't really a great choice.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:56 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:12 am
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:56 am The frustration in those highlights is watching their goals both from wide positions which should have been stopped, in fairness to Myles Judd thought he was very good when he came on last night, that said I would like to see Turley get game time on Saturday at full back because out of Ling, Judd and Turley he would be my preferred choice.
Agreed with Turley being the preferred choice there, but that means Coulson or Widdowson have to start alongside Happe.

I really hope Judd can continue this form and go on and have a great season for us.
The problem is though roles were reversed on Saturday Judd was out of position and lost his man when Reading missed an open goal just before half time a common Judd fault Ling came on and looked good. But that's the dilemma neither is consistantly decent they both look good at times and crap at others. Turley is the second quickest player at the club, no lack of pace. He should be first choice right back and we should concentrate our effort on finding a decent centre half, although scanning through the PFA free agent list last night there wasn't really a great choice.
Link to Judd losing his man please?

Do you mean the one when Wilkinson let his man run off him? That one?

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:58 am
by Top of the JES
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:56 am
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:12 am
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am

Agreed with Turley being the preferred choice there, but that means Coulson or Widdowson have to start alongside Happe.

I really hope Judd can continue this form and go on and have a great season for us.
The problem is though roles were reversed on Saturday Judd was out of position and lost his man when Reading missed an open goal just before half time a common Judd fault Ling came on and looked good. But that's the dilemma neither is consistantly decent they both look good at times and crap at others. Turley is the second quickest player at the club, no lack of pace. He should be first choice right back and we should concentrate our effort on finding a decent centre half, although scanning through the PFA free agent list last night there wasn't really a great choice.
Link to Judd losing his man please?

Do you mean the one when Wilkinson let his man run off him? That one?
Watch the highlights. Judd gets caught out of position.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
I've watched the highlights back and can't see it.

Do you meant the one when Wilkinson lets his man run off of him then passes the ball across the face of the goal and their striker misses an open goal? If so, that was Wilkinsons man. That may happen playing a striker in that position.

I'm sure you can't mean that one because it's so obviously Wilkinsons man, not Judds.

Nice whatabouterry though.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:13 pm
by Constanza
From Champions league finalists to a 6-2 drubbing by little Leyton Orient. Bet they wish they hadn't sacked Poch now.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:16 pm
by Top of the JES
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm I've watched the highlights back and can't see it.

Do you meant the one when Wilkinson lets his man run off of him then passes the ball across the face of the goal and their striker misses an open goal? If so, that was Wilkinsons man. That may happen playing a striker in that position.

I'm sure you can't mean that one because it's so obviously Wilkinsons man, not Judds.

Nice whatabouterry though.
Judd makes two errors, first tries to get clever on the by line and looses the ball when he could have cleared it, Then gets dragged insidee and tries to win a ball that's not his and in doing so leaves a bloody great hole for the Reading player to run into. Wilko didn't do his job either but rule one for a full back is don't leave space and let opponents get in behind you.
It's Not like it's the first time he's done it but he doesn't seem to be learning.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Is that you admitting you called it wrong and it was Wilkinson that let his man go, not Myles?

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:51 pm
by Top of the JES
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm Is that you admitting you called it wrong and it was Wilkinson that let his man go, not Myles?
No it's seeing the whole picture, and you trying to deflect away from another Judd error. If he defends it better in the first place and puts it in row Z the situations over. He's the one who leaves the hole for the bloke to run into.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:02 pm
by Eat The Rich
faith1234 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:28 am Anyone know who the trailist that acorwd was
Shaq Coulthirst. Ex-Barnet striker.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:02 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:51 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm Is that you admitting you called it wrong and it was Wilkinson that let his man go, not Myles?
No it's seeing the whole picture, and you trying to deflect away from another Judd error. If he defends it better in the first place and puts it in row Z the situations over. He's the one who leaves the hole for the bloke to run into.
I totally agree Judd should have cleared that ball. But he didn't and we had re-organised so that's irrelevant and in any case, it's not the point you made.

You said Judd lost his man for Readings chance (from which they didn't even score ffs) but he didn't. Judd was tight to his man. It was Wilkinson who let his man run off of him. If you play Wilko in that position, it's going to happen.

This is bonkers. Ling has made a couple of howlers last night but you're ignoring that, instead going on about Judd. Absolutely bizarre.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:11 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs


The bloke actually runs off of Wright and then Wilkinson.

Judd is - almost - touch tight to his man. There is no way their left back should charge past both Wright and Wilko but he does. No way is that Judds fault. Anyone suggesting it is has an agenda.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:15 pm
by Top of the JES
RedO wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 am
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:56 am The frustration in those highlights is watching their goals both from wide positions which should have been stopped, in fairness to Myles Judd thought he was very good when he came on last night, that said I would like to see Turley get game time on Saturday at full back because out of Ling, Judd and Turley he would be my preferred choice.
Agreed with Turley being the preferred choice there, but that means Coulson or Widdowson have to start alongside Happe.

I really hope Judd can continue this form and go on and have a great season for us.
Er really, I praised Judd for last night when he did well, he was far more convincing than Ling last night but had an easier ride after the Spurs subs. both our full backs are inconsistent or at least consistently poor, which is why I would want Turley there. We should move on both Ling and Judd on ASAP, neither is good enough.

Re: Highlights v Spurs U23

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:30 pm
by Chicken Dhansak
I remember, back in 2009, when we beat a nearly full strength Newcastle United team 6-1. The following season Newcastle were promoted
to the Premier League and we ended up 17th in League 1, so don't read too much into this result.