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I know how much some of you love the fact we have so many coaches so thought this would please you...

https://www.leytonorient.com/2020/08/06 ... aff/?amp=1

“For Emma, she’s been with us for five years, and indeed since the day I walked in.

“She’s done a great job in this period, but in the current economic climate I’ve had to reduce numbers of staff, and unfortunately Emma was one of these casualties.

Outrageous

More jobs for the boys

If we take the coaching setup for our title squad and compare

Ottley > Brill
Webb > Senda
n/a > Harrold
n/a > Lawless (did that go through not seen it announced?)

Lots of extra coaching staff for why?

Completely lost for words.

It’s all very well hiring these extra coaches but is the club forgetting we still need another two or possibly three players. I thought money was tight at the moment

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:17 pm “For Emma, she’s been with us for five years, and indeed since the day I walked in.

“She’s done a great job in this period, but in the current economic climate I’ve had to reduce numbers of staff, and unfortunately Emma was one of these casualties.

Outrageous

Absolutely this. Well highlighted.

welcome Matt to your new role has coach at Leyton Orient -Just a heads up the games lasts longer than the last 10 minutes

Too many coaches learning on the job for my liking tbh.

Embleton - Still very much rookie Manager,
Brill - One season coaching,
Jobi - One season coaching,
Senda - One Season coaching at senior level,
Harrold - Nada,


As much as I like Matty, I would have thought bringing in a Russell Slade "type" of elder statesman to help Embleton would make more sense.

"We’ve got a really good group of staff and I’m looking forward to adding to that where I can and use my experience."

2 weeks experience to be exact.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:06 pm Too many coaches learning on the job for my liking tbh.

Embleton - Still very much rookie Manager,
Brill - One season coaching,
Jobi - One season coaching,
Senda - One Season coaching at senior level,
Harrold - Nada,


As much as I like Matty, I would have thought bringing in a Russell Slade "type" of elder statesman to help Embleton would make more sense.

Agree mate
But its the perfect strategy for job preservation - get yourself surrounded with people and remove yourself from accountability The civil service have been doing it for years
As for bringing in a senior coach, my god Martin would choke on his crisps, to have any form of presence in the building that may have differing views, and may question, or want to change things, or upset anyone. Keep the pond settled.

Personally I think this is a good move on the clubs part. He loves the club, he’s played many many games at our level and above so knows the environment he’ll be working in. He has managed at his previous club and by all accounts they did well and played some good football. He has pubically stated a desire to go down that route and I’m pleased it’s with us. He is a leader in the dressing room and as an elder statesman so to speak the players look up to him so this should bode well.

Welcome back Matt and good luck for the future.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:06 pm Too many coaches learning on the job for my liking tbh.

Embleton - Still very much rookie Manager,
Brill - One season coaching,
Jobi - One season coaching,
Senda - One Season coaching at senior level,
Harrold - Nada,

I’m still confused! Has McAnuff been signed for another 12 months as a player or coach or a bit of both ?

I've got a feeling Jobi may not see out the season with us. Hope i'm wrong but if injuries curtail his involvement on the playing side, where just where does he fit in on the coaching side with Ross, Danny, Matt and Dean already in place. Could be a move to another club but i see media and TV work on the horizon.
Our coaching set up is looking a bit like MasterChef, plenty of sous chefs but no Master.
This sounds like a moan but i really do want Ross and the boys to succeed, theyre all young and should be hungry...sorry for the pun!!

Harrold was caretaker manager at Crawley for one game in 2016, they drew 2-2 with Plymouth and Dean Cox scored that day for Crawley I think.

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:10 pm Harrold was caretaker manager at Crawley for one game in 2016, they drew 2-2 with Plymouth and Dean Cox scored that day for Crawley I think.

More experience than most of our coaches then

I've no problem with Harrold at all. I'd rather he was Head Coach if I'm being honest.

But we're massively overloaded with coaches. I'm all for coaching the last out of the players at our disposal but at one point you'll need better players.

It wasn't the coaching that got Bury and then Plymouth the next season promoted. It was the players.

Old boys club.

Go back 40 years and we made the F A Cup
semi final and were the equivalent of a
Championship side with a coaching staff of
roughly Bloomfield, Angell and Terry Long ..
Move forward to the 90s and we had Frank Clark
and Peter Eustace running the show..
It we carry on becoming the National Express of the footballing
world anyone with a season ticket in the Gallery will have to be
relocated to the East Stand as the home dugout is sent back 10
rows to fulfil all the extra coaches being taken on ..

As someone said on Twitter...square up to one of the coaches, get him sacked and take his job. Lovely jubbly.

As much as I think the coaches thing is a bit boring and OTT sometimes, 5 minutes after saying we couldn't afford to whilst releasing two young members of staff doesn't sit right at all. I know we can say Harrold was already a wage, but right after claiming poverty is a piss take.

it seems to suggest something else to me why they were let go.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:26 pm As much as I think the coaches thing is a bit boring and OTT sometimes, 5 minutes after saying we couldn't afford to whilst releasing two young members of staff doesn't sit right at all. I know we can say Harrold was already a wage, but right after claiming poverty is a p*ss take.

Of course it doesn't sit right, it's a f*cking piss take.

I wouldn't mind but the club have gone cap in hand to the ST holders to ask us to not ask for a refund on the missed games at the back end of last season. At the same time, Ling has got rid of Ottley and Baughurst because of the "economic climate" and needing to reduce the number of staff.

We've now got 3 first team coaches that have played for the club in the last year (one still plays sometimes). A manager that started sh*t then decided he didn't fancy it, then got the job again on a full time basis after Fletcher didn't work out. I just hope Danny Senda is a breath of fresh air.

I like the big fella, but Biggsy is right. This is an absolute p*ss take and the club should feel ashamed at what it has done to Emma and others.

Would love to know who got given the green light to do this.

One big happy family. It’s the orient way. That and losing. Good for Embleton and Ling though. They really have it sown up. Plenty of sackings before they need to step forward and accept any blame.