Independent Leyton Orient Forum

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:55 pm I think thats its a bit disrespectful to use the word 'deadwood'. They are all human beings after all.

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:55 pm I think thats its a bit disrespectful to use the word 'deadwood'. They are all human beings after all.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:26 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:55 pm I think thats its a bit disrespectful to use the word 'deadwood'. They are all human beings after all.

I dunno, it's a pretty common expression to use for players that are taking up space but contributing little.

Happe, Brophy and Maguire-Drew are the priorities for renewal I'd say - hope we have started talking to them about new deals already as they're only going to get more and more in demand the closer they get to free agency.

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:41 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:26 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:55 pm I think thats its a bit disrespectful to use the word 'deadwood'. They are all human beings after all.

I dunno, it's a pretty common expression to use for players that are taking up space but contributing little.

Happe, Brophy and Maguire-Drew are the priorities for renewal I'd say - hope we have started talking to them about new deals already as they're only going to get more and more in demand the closer they get to free agency.

How would you like it if you saw your manager's private work appraisal and you were described as 'deadwood'?

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:37 pm Looking forward to a big clear to next year. This year is consigned to another flirt with relegation/bottom ten finish. But we have a chance to rebuild in 2021/22.

Unless Ling starts dishing out useless contract extensions again.

AckneyAwks wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:55 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:37 pm Looking forward to a big clear to next year. This year is consigned to another flirt with relegation/bottom ten finish. But we have a chance to rebuild in 2021/22.

Unless Ling starts dishing out useless contract extensions again.

Could be a difficult one for the club do they look to bring in between 6 to 10 new signings which could test thier finances or do they offer new contracts to our current players on lower wages. If the financial implications of no/small attendances were not a major concern i would favour at least 6 new signings. Hopefully any signings would be players for specific positions and not multi-task Jack of all Trade types.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:29 pm I think we have the below out of contract next summer - will make amendments where necessary.

Lawrence Vigouroux

SamLing
Joe Widdowson
Josh Coulson
Dan Happe
Jamie Turley
Myles Judd

Craig Clay
Josh Wright
Jobi McAnuff
James Brophy
James Dayton
Jordan Maguire-Drew
Hector Kyprianou

Lee Angol
Conor Wilkinson
Danny Johnson

(think Sargeant, Sweeney and Dennis have another year)

Can't say there's an awful lot of this group that I'd definitely keep. Vigouroux, Happe, Brophy, Maguire-Drew for sure, and maybes over Kyprianou, Angol, Wilkinson and Johnson depending on how they do this season. Think we should be looking to integrate significant upgrades into the squad from January onwards and try to clear out some deadwood.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:00 pm

AckneyAwks wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:55 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:37 pm Looking forward to a big clear to next year. This year is consigned to another flirt with relegation/bottom ten finish. But we have a chance to rebuild in 2021/22.

Unless Ling starts dishing out useless contract extensions again.

Could be a difficult one for the club do they look to bring in between 6 to 10 new signings which could test thier finances or do they offer new contracts to our current players on lower wages. If the financial implications of no/small attendances were not a major concern i would favour at least 6 new signings. Hopefully any signings would be players for specific positions and not multi-task Jack of all Trade types.

Agree and also something to be said for the risks of brining in 8-19 brand new players.

What id like us to do is to identify our ‘core’. The players we can build around who fit the style of play that Ross wants to play and secure those players, and then supplement them with quality.

I still think we are suffering a bit from having to throw a squad together in June 2017 after the clown left. Which is no ones fault. But I’d like a bit more of a structured approach going forward.