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Welcome and good Luck Danny.

Another bizarre appointment. Yet another wage on an another inexperienced coach, which makes 4 now doesn't it? Whilst we got rid of 3 or 4 people elsewhere and are struggling for wages in the playing budget by all accounts.

With every passing week I get more and more bemused at the decisions our board make. I mean, it's an assistant, it's not the end of the world. But it's another sign to add to the others that there's something very off.

Wish Danny well though, it's not his fault.

We didn't expect that...
Would have preferred a much more experienced guy
So again we have to trust ML/RE...and their interview process (smiles)

Danny who ffs. ???

Senda joined Brentford as an academy coach in September 2013. He became head coach of Barnet's under-18 team in summer 2017. Senda was promoted to first team coach in February 2019.[10] He left the Bees in July 2020.

Not a lot of experience but fits the BAME requirements.........

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Unbelievable, we need money spent on quality players not wasted on another assistant !!!

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:37 pm Unbelievable, we need money spent on quality players not wasted on another assistant !!!

What we need is to be seen to be a progressive club
who show we have equal opportunities.

With.the owners/chairmen looking for more & more
Sponsorship deals & investment it shows good sense
to have a diverse employment throughout the club.

Plenty of major buisnesses want to attach themselves in any way
they can to sponsorship advertising as they can.
If we can get two 6 figure deals into the club by this it will pay for itself.

Build sound footings then the house is strong forever.

Dont build them & you are likely to collapse quickly.

Well we were discussing this on Orient Hour last week and some of you thought we were making it up!

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:31 pm Danny who ffs. ???

To be fair, he has played over 400 games at our level and above for Wycombe and Millwall mostly. And was a very tasty player. This was fairly recently too so if you don't know him that's more maybe on you and your lower league knowledge than anything. Don't mean that disrespectfully but he has been a feature at our level for nearly 20 years.

Welcome Danny

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:44 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:37 pm Unbelievable, we need money spent on quality players not wasted on another assistant !!!

What we need is to be seen to be a progressive club
who show we have equal opportunities.

With.the owners/chairmen looking for more & more
Sponsorship deals & investment it shows good sense
to have a diverse employment throughout the club.

Plenty of major buisnesses want to attach themselves in any way
they can to sponsorship advertising as they can.
If we can get two 6 figure deals into the club by this it will pay for itself.

Build sound footings then the house is strong forever.

Dont build them & you are likely to collapse quickly.

I'm all for diversity, but you think we will get sponsorship deals for 6 figures because we've hired a BAME assistant?

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:29 pm Another bizarre appointment. Yet another wage on an another inexperienced coach, which makes 4 now doesn't it? Whilst we got rid of 3 or 4 people elsewhere and are struggling for wages in the playing budget by all accounts.

With every passing week I get more and more bemused at the decisions our board make. I mean, it's an assistant, it's not the end of the world. But it's another sign to add to the others that there's something very off.

Wish Danny well though, it's not his fault.

How shocking that you have reacted negatively to this.

Nothing to suggest the club are 'struggling for wages'.

I'm all for people judging player signings and saying whether or not a player is good or not - Everyone's opinion will be different.

But surely when it comes to the coaching team, the proof and judgment should be made on the first teams results first? This goes for whether they have experience or not?

Time will tell us whether or not this appointment will be a success or not.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:52 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:29 pm Another bizarre appointment. Yet another wage on an another inexperienced coach, which makes 4 now doesn't it? Whilst we got rid of 3 or 4 people elsewhere and are struggling for wages in the playing budget by all accounts.

With every passing week I get more and more bemused at the decisions our board make. I mean, it's an assistant, it's not the end of the world. But it's another sign to add to the others that there's something very off.

Wish Danny well though, it's not his fault.

How shocking that you have reacted negatively to this.

Nothing to suggest the club are 'struggling for wages'.

It's not negative, it's realistic. He's an inexperienced coach. Like Brill and Jobi. Behind an inexperienced manager. Excuse me for not thinking it's the right decision.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:48 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:44 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:37 pm Unbelievable, we need money spent on quality players not wasted on another assistant !!!

What we need is to be seen to be a progressive club
who show we have equal opportunities.

With.the owners/chairmen looking for more & more
Sponsorship deals & investment it shows good sense
to have a diverse employment throughout the club.

Plenty of major buisnesses want to attach themselves in any way
they can to sponsorship advertising as they can.
If we can get two 6 figure deals into the club by this it will pay for itself.

Build sound footings then the house is strong forever.

Dont build them & you are likely to collapse quickly.

I'm all for diversity, but you think we will get sponsorship deals for 6 figures because we've hired a BAME assistant?

It will make it a lot easier.

Hiring of Ethnic minority groups in North America has shot up recently as
many dont want to be associated with Racism & bigotry .
Lots of Institutions in The U.S & canada have suffered mass sackings of staff
for historic racism cases bought against them .

The University my sister works for has had 6 long term staff replaced
by 1 white person & 5 from Ethnic minorities.

Didnt The Redskins announce there name change because of
pressure from sponsors .

I also remember the biggest sponsorship deal in football being scuppered
By bigotry , when Coca Cola pulled out of a joint deal with Rangers & Celtic.

The next season Souness was employed & Mo Johnston was signed.

Nigel has stated if anybody knows people willing to involve themselves in
Sponsorship deals , later saying in the region of 500k .

He's been coaching since 2013. If they'd appointed somebody with more experience you'd be moaning that they were an old failure or some such.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:59 pm He's been coaching since 2013. If they'd appointed somebody with more experience you'd be moaning that they were an old failure or some such.

Sure I would.

Noted that any appointments going forward I'll hold my opinions on an orient message board. Wouldn't want too much discussion eh?

I sure he will do well even though I would have liked to have a more experienced man.

Welcome and good luck, Danny.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:00 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:59 pm He's been coaching since 2013. If they'd appointed somebody with more experience you'd be moaning that they were an old failure or some such.

Sure I would.

Noted that any appointments going forward I'll hold my opinions on an orient message board. Wouldn't want too much discussion eh?

You are welcome to give us your opinion and I am free to challenge it.

You just appear so sad. Who hurt you?

Welcome Danny and I wish you all the best and hopefully you can help this club progress forwards and upwards.

For those of you that have suggested or have thought about suggesting we've appointed Danny to fit the current bame criteria need to go and wobble your heads somewhat.

Good luck to Danny i wish him success in his time at the club. Dont know much about him but i think he had some decent form as a right back for Wycombe and quite often impressed. I wonder if we have the youngest management/coaching set up in the EFL.
The mystery to all this for me is Jobi, he must have been determined to carry on playing and i think by the end of this season or before he will either be in a different coaching position here or somewhere else. If not, he will be working full time in media.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:02 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:00 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:59 pm He's been coaching since 2013. If they'd appointed somebody with more experience you'd be moaning that they were an old failure or some such.

Sure I would.

Noted that any appointments going forward I'll hold my opinions on an orient message board. Wouldn't want too much discussion eh?

You are welcome to give us your opinion and I am free to challenge it.

You just appear so sad. Who hurt you?

it's sad seeing some pretty bizarre decisions being made at my club. Let's let them get on with it though, dont want to hold them to account too much. it's only our club, after all.

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:56 pm I'm all for people judging player signings and saying whether or not a player is good or not - Everyone's opinion will be different.

But surely when it comes to the coaching team, the proof and judgment should be made on the first teams results first? This goes for whether they have experience or not?

Time will tell us whether or not this appointment will be a success or not.

True. Every experienced coach was inexperienced when first appointed.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:00 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:59 pm He's been coaching since 2013. If they'd appointed somebody with more experience you'd be moaning that they were an old failure or some such.

Sure I would.

Noted that any appointments going forward I'll hold my opinions on an orient message board. Wouldn't want too much discussion eh?

Sometimes though maybe there almost IS too much discussion. I don't remember Paul Clark coming in during the 90's and people thinking 'cor, not for me' for example. Sometimes unless we sign obviously great signings it'll automatically be negative rather than neutral fairly often. If we signed a 19 year old released by Brentford as a centre midfielder tomorrow people would go nutty, but they might actually be perfect for us. It's almost like in the age of hyper-information it always airs on the side of negative.

Except about the Tories, obviously. Bastards.