Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:39 am From what I can gather from this https://www.leytonorient.com/2020/01/07 ... ead-coach/ he's on a rolling 12 month but it's unclear whether that's rolling from Jan or if it's now finished and we need to make a call on whether to roll it forward?

I mean, he's going to be our 'head coach' whenever the season starts, right? Or is anyone expecting any changes?

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:22 pm I dont think the club would ever sack Ross. If they wanted to bring in a new manager, they would move him to a different position, like u19 coach( if such a position doesn't exist, they'd create it).
If they really did sack him and removed him from the club, then Martin Ling would resign......Ross is his protege , almost like a family member. The club would never do that, so Ross would stay in some capacity.
Orient really is an old boys network now...its a very unhealthy situation
We could be doing so much better with a good manager and without a DOF

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:46 am Desperate

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:22 pm I dont think the club would ever sack Ross. If they wanted to bring in a new manager, they would move him to a different position, like u19 coach( if such a position doesn't exist, they'd create it).
If they really did sack him and removed him from the club, then Martin Ling would resign......Ross is his protege , almost like a family member. The club would never do that, so Ross would stay in some capacity.
Orient really is an old boys network now...its a very unhealthy situation
We could be doing so much better with a good manager and without a DOF

OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:23 pm I just think it means they can fire him whenever they want, and he will get a year's salary as a payoff. At no point does his contract simply expire.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:23 pm I just think it means they can fire him whenever they want, and he will get a year's salary as a payoff. At no point does his contract simply expire.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:54 pm

OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:23 pm I just think it means they can fire him whenever they want, and he will get a year's salary as a payoff. At no point does his contract simply expire.

That is correct I think. Simply gives Ross the security of 12 months money should he be sacked.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:06 am To be honest, I've got nothing personally against Ross Embleton (other than he looks a bit of a d!ck whenever he wears a cap).

However, we've got to be honest with ourselves here. He will never be a guy who will progress us beyond middle table mediocrity. Nothing about him convinces me that he is the guy to take Leyton Orient Football Club forward.

Since the sad, untimely demise of Justin, we seem to have been in a permanent state of limbo. Understandable perhaps in 2019/2020 - as things were still so raw.

Moving forward, our superb ownership, clearly has a major weakness. They haven't now gone in and basically restructured our club from the top down. Our management structure has NOT delivered; and taking into consideration our sales and (thus far) non-existent squad acquisitions, it should be a major cause for concern. Alarm bells should be ringing. Sadly, they aren't.

The only way for our Club to move on, is for our leadership to move on. Sadly, I can only see a back-slapping environment from our Board.

They seriously need to grow a pair and make significant changes.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:06 am To be honest, I've got nothing personally against Ross Embleton (other than he looks a bit of a d!ck whenever he wears a cap).

However, we've got to be honest with ourselves here. He will never be a guy who will progress us beyond middle table mediocrity. Nothing about him convinces me that he is the guy to take Leyton Orient Football Club forward.

Since the sad, untimely demise of Justin, we seem to have been in a permanent state of limbo. Understandable perhaps in 2019/2020 - as things were still so raw.

Moving forward, our superb ownership, clearly has a major weakness. They haven't now gone in and basically restructured our club from the top down. Our management structure has NOT delivered; and taking into consideration our sales and (thus far) non-existent squad acquisitions, it should be a major cause for concern. Alarm bells should be ringing. Sadly, they aren't.

The only way for our Club to move on, is for our leadership to move on. Sadly, I can only see a back-slapping environment from our Board.

They seriously need to grow a pair and make significant changes.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:06 am To be honest, I've got nothing personally against Ross Embleton (other than he looks a bit of a d!ck whenever he wears a cap).

However, we've got to be honest with ourselves here. He will never be a guy who will progress us beyond middle table mediocrity. Nothing about him convinces me that he is the guy to take Leyton Orient Football Club forward.

Since the sad, untimely demise of Justin, we seem to have been in a permanent state of limbo. Understandable perhaps in 2019/2020 - as things were still so raw.

Moving forward, our superb ownership, clearly has a major weakness. They haven't now gone in and basically restructured our club from the top down. Our management structure has NOT delivered; and taking into consideration our sales and (thus far) non-existent squad acquisitions, it should be a major cause for concern. Alarm bells should be ringing. Sadly, they aren't.

The only way for our Club to move on, is for our leadership to move on. Sadly, I can only see a back-slapping environment from our Board.

They seriously need to grow a pair and make significant changes.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:06 am To be honest, I've got nothing personally against Ross Embleton (other than he looks a bit of a d!ck whenever he wears a cap).

However, we've got to be honest with ourselves here. He will never be a guy who will progress us beyond middle table mediocrity. Nothing about him convinces me that he is the guy to take Leyton Orient Football Club forward.

Since the sad, untimely demise of Justin, we seem to have been in a permanent state of limbo. Understandable perhaps in 2019/2020 - as things were still so raw.

Moving forward, our superb ownership, clearly has a major weakness. They haven't now gone in and basically restructured our club from the top down. Our management structure has NOT delivered; and taking into consideration our sales and (thus far) non-existent squad acquisitions, it should be a major cause for concern. Alarm bells should be ringing. Sadly, they aren't.

The only way for our Club to move on, is for our leadership to move on. Sadly, I can only see a back-slapping environment from our Board.

They seriously need to grow a pair and make significant changes.

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:14 am The owners made it clear from the outset that this is the structure that they want.

If Orient struggle this season I’m sure they will look for a replacement for Ross - until that time why the continued moanfest?

I also find it hard to understand this “jobs for the boys” mantra - all clubs operate in this manner - just look at Man Utd for example.

Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:17 pm Both he and Ling must go, club will go nowhere with those two dragging us backwards. Need an ex Orient formidable player to come in as Manager. Ling couldn’t direct anything and I personally think he has lost the plot. I reluctantly renewed my tickets but felt I was throwing money down the drain parting with my hard earned cash as I deep down think there will not be much football, I won’t be in my long held seats, it will be more stressful watching a match in face masks, we will lose more players and get naff all in return for our loyalty to the club. I just cannot feel other than the season will be a disaster all round and I’m paying for nothing. In some ways I wish I had just did ‘pay as you go’.

Ling is old hat, past it and he should move on and take his Manager with him. They are hardly the dream team.