Independent Leyton Orient Forum

faith1234 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:02 pm nothing going on Mr ling get your finger out

HeyO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:28 am

faith1234 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:02 pm nothing going on Mr ling get your finger out

Faith no more.

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:11 am No signings yet? Yes, its frustrating especially as the season ended early for us. I suspect however that we will have to wait quite a few more weeks to sign up anyone. I dont think we will get Cisse and then its going to be a case of musical chairs as players and clubs play musical chairs.

As long as we end up with a strong defensive midfielder in the Cisse mould plus a younger Harrold, I will be more than happy.

faith1234 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:35 pm As we would have been told by now only big mav has gone so we need to replace him asap

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:24 pm Get an expierenced manager a person that has proper proven mangerial expierence
Then let them work out which players stay which go as their contract run down and who we should try and get

Bingo we get promoted or do quite well

Nigel has had a decent career himself where different companies have chosen him based in his CV

Why cannot he now do the same selection process it's like hitting our heads to a concrete wall trying to get this club to do the bloody obvious

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:05 pm

redintheface wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:49 pm

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:24 pm Get an expierenced manager a person that has proper proven mangerial expierence
Then let them work out which players stay which go as their contract run down and who we should try and get

Bingo we get promoted or do quite well

Nigel has had a decent career himself where different companies have chosen him based in his CV

Why cannot he now do the same selection process it's like hitting our heads to a concrete wall trying to get this club to do the bloody obvious

Even the cleverest and best intentioned people can have “ blind spots” -It’s human nature ! Nigel Travis and Kent Teague seem to have convinced themselves that there is a “ unique culture” that exists at the club that must be preserved and RE & Martin Ling are an integral part of it. This may also go some way to explaining the decision to offer a McAnuff another 12 month deal as player/ coach. I don’t imagine there is much prospect of their views changing unless things go badly wrong quite quickly in the new season.

I stretch my mind to its elastic limit to try and work out what this " unique culture is at Lofc " compared to the other football league clubs

It is a very good phrase to use as a subjective summary but what is the specific reasons,to keep making this statement

The only one thing I can imagine is that the club try and let players see out their contracts and they may be more receptive to extend contracts more than other lower clubs

It would be wonderful if this phrase was clarified with clear simple evidence maybe I am missing something obvious to grasp

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:05 pm

redintheface wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:49 pm

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:24 pm Get an expierenced manager a person that has proper proven mangerial expierence
Then let them work out which players stay which go as their contract run down and who we should try and get

Bingo we get promoted or do quite well

Nigel has had a decent career himself where different companies have chosen him based in his CV

Why cannot he now do the same selection process it's like hitting our heads to a concrete wall trying to get this club to do the bloody obvious

Even the cleverest and best intentioned people can have “ blind spots” -It’s human nature ! Nigel Travis and Kent Teague seem to have convinced themselves that there is a “ unique culture” that exists at the club that must be preserved and RE & Martin Ling are an integral part of it. This may also go some way to explaining the decision to offer a McAnuff another 12 month deal as player/ coach. I don’t imagine there is much prospect of their views changing unless things go badly wrong quite quickly in the new season.

I stretch my mind to its elastic limit to try and work out what this " unique culture is at Lofc " compared to the other football league clubs

It is a very good phrase to use as a subjective summary but what is the specific reasons,to keep making this statement

The only one thing I can imagine is that the club try and let players see out their contracts and they may be more receptive to extend contracts more than other lower clubs

It would be wonderful if this phrase was clarified with clear simple evidence maybe I am missing something obvious to grasp

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:49 pm

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:05 pm

redintheface wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:49 pm

Even the cleverest and best intentioned people can have “ blind spots” -It’s human nature ! Nigel Travis and Kent Teague seem to have convinced themselves that there is a “ unique culture” that exists at the club that must be preserved and RE & Martin Ling are an integral part of it. This may also go some way to explaining the decision to offer a McAnuff another 12 month deal as player/ coach. I don’t imagine there is much prospect of their views changing unless things go badly wrong quite quickly in the new season.

I stretch my mind to its elastic limit to try and work out what this " unique culture is at Lofc " compared to the other football league clubs

It is a very good phrase to use as a subjective summary but what is the specific reasons,to keep making this statement

The only one thing I can imagine is that the club try and let players see out their contracts and they may be more receptive to extend contracts more than other lower clubs

It would be wonderful if this phrase was clarified with clear simple evidence maybe I am missing something obvious to grasp

From comments made by many directly associated with the club, I read the culture are follows:

* Players always get paid on time (unlike at some other clubs)
* Open communication from Owners and Directors (unlike at many other clubs)
* Welcoming culture for new players - no cliques
* Tremendous away support (even in the National League)
* Strong BAME contingent within the Club
* Excellent development and promotion of youngsters over many years (currently Happe, Ogie, Sweeney, Kyprianou etc but before that Taylor, Roeder etc)
* Players at the end of their career have coaching opportunities with the Club (eg Jobi, Harrold, Lawless)
* Finally, Harry Kane supports the Club!

I am sure there will now be lots of negatives by the usual negative MBers here.

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:27 pm Redintheface, I can understand why you say that re Fletcher. My point is based on incoming players saying how welcomed they were made to feel. The Fletcher and Webb episodes are and always will be inexplainable, except to those at the very heart of the decision to terminate them.