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So they are going to be compulsory on public transport from the 15th of this month , I'm happy to comply if I have to travel , i wonder how they will enforce this when the people refuse to wear em

Where’s Thor when you need him?

Are you suggesting he's someone who needs his face covering?

Covid or not.

It might be a good idea for after lockdown ends as well. For me the main issue with public transport is not the price and availability of it but people that use it smell.

Early on around late February, I purchased some face masks, 2 boxes of clear powdered vinyl gloves and 2 face visors, to be used by myself and my lady friend. So since the start of March, been wearing them whenever I have gone out shopping etc, which has been around once every two to three weeks. Apparently the face masks main practical use is that IF you have the virus, it helps to prevent the infected droplets from spreading so far if you cough or sneeze. Amazed me how many people in the media and responsible positions were pictured shaking hands with other people, well after the warnings had been stated that the infection could be carried by it being on hands. Boris Johnson, Prince Charles, President Trump to name just a few people in high positions who made a point of being seen doing the hand shaking, not setting a good example to the general public. As to how this face mask wearing public transport rule can be enforced, we shall see. Seems to me from when I have been out, that many in the UK, have taken little to no notice of any of the social distancing, wearing masks and certainly very rare to see anyone wearing gloves, the many who have taken little to no notice of the warnings about this virus, has not helped in the battle in trying to keep down the infection rate.

So you deprived the NHS of PPE?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:16 pm So you deprived the NHS of PPE?

No, all purchased from my local building supply store, there were plenty available at the time for general use.

So Sadiq Khan was right all along.

I bet the local shops who now seem to have plenty in stock increase their prices of masks now this rule is in force

BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:32 pm I bet the local shops who now seem to have plenty in stock increase their prices of masks now this rule is in force

I have just bought two washable face masks on Ebay for £4-98.

who was the masked man

Lovejoy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:34 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:32 pm I bet the local shops who now seem to have plenty in stock increase their prices of masks now this rule is in force

I have just bought two washable face masks on Ebay for £4-98.

Just use initiative and most of this ppe stuff is easy to find for sale on the internet ( ebay for just one place ) for reasonable prices.

Whilst I will not be travelling on trains or tubes, I would refuse to wear one.

A face mask was invented to protect the patient from infection from the surgeon. It was not for the surgeon to protect himself, it was to stop drool or spital or any kind of fluid from the doctor entering the open wound.

The wearing of a face mask will by the very nature of what it does, restrict the amount of oxygen your body would be able to take in. As your body realises that the oxygen level has reduced it will then release adrenaline and serotonin. In turn the heart will quicken to keep up with what's going on. Now your putting your body under stress without even realising it, and one of the main things this virus loves is stress.

So for me I won't be wearing one.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:06 pm Whilst I will not be travelling on trains or tubes, I would refuse to wear one.

A face mask was invented to protect the patient from infection from the surgeon. It was not for the surgeon to protect himself, it was to stop drool or spital or any kind of fluid from the doctor entering the open wound.

The wearing of a face mask will by the very nature of what it does, restrict the amount of oxygen your body would be able to take in. As your body realises that the oxygen level has reduced it will then release adrenaline and serotonin. In turn the heart will quicken to keep up with what's going on. Now your putting your body under stress without even realising it, and one of the main things this virus loves is stress.

So for me I won't be wearing one.

Quite right. Might I suggest you wear a gag instead.

Another about face turn by Doris.

Feel sorry for transport staff who will be expected to enforce this.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:27 pm So Sadiq Khan was right all along.

Shush.

Blimey, Thor is a "scientist" now!

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:43 pm Blimey, Thor is a "scientist" now!

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:06 pm Whilst I will not be travelling on trains or tubes, I would refuse to wear one.

A face mask was invented to protect the patient from infection from the surgeon. It was not for the surgeon to protect himself, it was to stop drool or spital or any kind of fluid from the doctor entering the open wound.

The wearing of a face mask will by the very nature of what it does, restrict the amount of oxygen your body would be able to take in. As your body realises that the oxygen level has reduced it will then release adrenaline and serotonin. In turn the heart will quicken to keep up with what's going on. Now your putting your body under stress without even realising it, and one of the main things this virus loves is stress.

So for me I won't be wearing one.

You do realise that what you describe could happen
Would be valid if it was worn continuously for say a week
In a locked room with closed windows. .

For an hour or so its not going to harm a healthy fit human being .
It stops super spreaders spreading .

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:43 pm

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:27 pm So Sadiq Khan was right all along.

Shush.

Yeah he was so right he provided all the Tfl bus drivers and tube drivers with all the appropriate ppe didn't he? What was that, he didn't? How many died because he never did? Too many.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:16 pm So you deprived the NHS of PPE?

Saving lives matters.

BTP might have to do some work for once

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:06 pm

A face mask was invented to protect the patient from infection from the surgeon. It was not for the surgeon to protect himself

Yes, but now try and engage every single brain cell and think what that means if everyone in an enclosed space wore one.

Occasionally I wish that the government would have spent more time explaining why people should do things rather than treating us liken5 year olds and giving a list of rules to follow, then I remember how f*cking stupid so many people are.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:06 pm Whilst I will not be travelling on trains or tubes, I would refuse to wear one.

A face mask was invented to protect the patient from infection from the surgeon. It was not for the surgeon to protect himself, it was to stop drool or spital or any kind of fluid from the doctor entering the open wound.

The wearing of a face mask will by the very nature of what it does, restrict the amount of oxygen your body would be able to take in. As your body realises that the oxygen level has reduced it will then release adrenaline and serotonin. In turn the heart will quicken to keep up with what's going on. Now your putting your body under stress without even realising it, and one of the main things this virus loves is stress.

So for me I won't be wearing one.

I am 73 (just ! ) and since around March time have been wearing a good quality face mask, gloves and face visor when going out doing supermarket shopping for myself and lady ( once every two weeks at the start, now around once a week ) no breathing difficulties, racing heart or stress noticed, perhaps that applies only to me ? Does it affect others like you say, dont know. In my own mind though, would have thought that IF you have the virus, then as the doctors and scientists seem to think, must help in restricting the distance the infected droplets can travel if you sneeze or cough, so if so, then by wearing a mask when going out will help to limit infecting others if a person DOES have this virus. I do not enjoy wearing all this ppe but kind of used to doing so after working in a pharma company in often dangerous situations where dangerous chemicals were present. Some of the stuff we sometimes had to wear was akin to wearing a space suit !