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Please watch this video as it’s enlightening on the situation that’s happening in the USA right now. She is very forthright in her views.

I think she’s a wonderful woman

For a start she's a member of the NRA, anti abortion and against welfare?, seems like a lovely person. Loves Trump.

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:42 pm For a start she's a member of the NRA, anti abortion and against welfare?, seems like a lovely person. Loves Trump.

I dont like Trump, the Americans love of guns etc, but she did make some good points.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:14 pm Please watch this video as it’s enlightening on the situation that’s happening in the USA right now. She is very forthright in her views.

Hi Thor!

Unless you are unaware, it is worth mentioning the fact that she is so very beloved and befriended by white supremacists in the US, plus has some 'forthright views' on Hitler, and is often quoted by conservatives stateside for when she inevitably agrees with them as if to say 'look! This black lady agrees we aren't racist!'.

Which parts did you find 'enlightening'?

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:49 pm

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:42 pm For a start she's a member of the NRA, anti abortion and against welfare?, seems like a lovely person. Loves Trump.

I dont like Trump, the Americans love of guns etc, but she did make some good points.

Which good points did she make, Sid? I watched the whole thing, curious to know which points you thought were good?

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:41 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:49 pm

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:42 pm For a start she's a member of the NRA, anti abortion and against welfare?, seems like a lovely person. Loves Trump.

I dont like Trump, the Americans love of guns etc, but she did make some good points.

Which good points did she make, Sid? I watched the whole thing, curious to know which points you thought were good?

And what points did she make that you thought were bad ?

You were the one that said she made good points off of your own back, so don't feel shy about it now. Which points were good?

She’s like an American Kunty Plopkins.

Can't wait to find out who's behind this new alias

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:18 am Can't wait to find out who's behind this new alias

Its Doug
There always Doug

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She’s like an American Kunty Plopkins.

I know it shouldn’t but that did make me laugh.

She’s a wrong’un.

Couldn't bear to listen to her more than a few minutes to be honest.

Celtient wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:30 am Couldn't bear to listen to her more than a few minutes to be honest.

That long?

Do you understand the concept of 'Tokenism' Thor?

Mikero

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:40 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:14 pm Please watch this video as it’s enlightening on the situation that’s happening in the USA right now. She is very forthright in her views.

Hi Thor!

Unless you are unaware, it is worth mentioning the fact that she is so very beloved and befriended by white supremacists in the US, plus has some 'forthright views' on Hitler, and is often quoted by conservatives stateside for when she inevitably agrees with them as if to say 'look! This black lady agrees we aren't racist!'.

Which parts did you find 'enlightening'?

Would genuinely be really interested to hear, Thor? Any response?

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:05 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:41 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:49 pm


I dont like Trump, the Americans love of guns etc, but she did make some good points.

Which good points did she make, Sid? I watched the whole thing, curious to know which points you thought were good?

And what points did she make that you thought were bad ?

Still thinking, Sid?

She makes her points very clearly and very succinctly if you bothered to listen to what she had to say, well that’s up to you. Let’s not forget she is a very articulate black women speaking about black lives and the whole situation that surrounds black people on a daily basis.

It’s just a shame that she has a different point of view than your own closeted views. I’d never heard of her before I saw that video, but she is clearly someone who is going places.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:09 am She makes her points very clearly and very succinctly if you bothered to listen to what she had to say, well that’s up to you. Let’s not forget she is a very articulate black women speaking about black lives and the whole situation that surrounds black people on a daily basis.

It’s just a shame that she has a different point of view than your own closeted views. I’d never heard of her before I saw that video, but she is clearly someone who is going places.

" The bottom denominator " ?

What a load of hogwash !

We walk as slow as our slowest person
If we dont then Humanity is doomed !

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:09 am She makes her points very clearly and very succinctly if you bothered to listen to what she had to say, well that’s up to you. Let’s not forget she is a very articulate black women speaking about black lives and the whole situation that surrounds black people on a daily basis.

It’s just a shame that she has a different point of view than your own closeted views. I’d never heard of her before I saw that video, but she is clearly someone who is going places.

Look her up and follow the money.

I don’t agree with everything she says, but I have a great deal of admiration for her to speak so openly as a black conservative knowing the amount of vitriol she’ll get for “not thinking the way she’s supposed to”

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:09 am She makes her points very clearly and very succinctly if you bothered to listen to what she had to say, well that’s up to you. Let’s not forget she is a very articulate black women speaking about black lives and the whole situation that surrounds black people on a daily basis.

It’s just a shame that she has a different point of view than your own closeted views. I’d never heard of her before I saw that video, but she is clearly someone who is going places.

Just because someone is clear and succinct, does not make them enlightening. It makes them clear and succinct. I listened to the whole thing.

She is very famous in the US. Obviously you understand her much better than I did, what was her points please?

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:09 am She makes her points very clearly and very succinctly if you bothered to listen to what she had to say, well that’s up to you. Let’s not forget she is a very articulate black women speaking about black lives and the whole situation that surrounds black people on a daily basis.

It’s just a shame that she has a different point of view than your own closeted views. I’d never heard of her before I saw that video, but she is clearly someone who is going places.

Hey Thor,

So, I thought to be fair, I'll watch it again. You're obviously seeing something I'm not, so I've put a few quotes here for you. Are these some of the things you found enlightening?;

'Racially motivated police brutality is a myth'

'We are being sold a lot of lies at the detriment to the black community, the white community and America'

'I do not support George Floyd and the media depiction of him as a martyr for America'

'We are (the black community) the only community that caters for the common denominator in our society'

'Not every black American is a criminal or commits a crime but we are unique in that we are the only people that fight and scream and demand support and justice for people that are up to no good. We will be hard to find this even in Latino America'

'I'll be damned if us upstanding black citizens have to suffer because of this incident that rarely ever happens'.

'You have a 25% higher chance as a higher white criminal of dying at the hands of the police officer than a black criminal. Last year a total of 9 unarmed black men were killed by police officers and 19 white men were killed by police officers. For those of you that aren't good at mathematics right, you might be thinking 'Oh, well, Candace, white people represent 60% of the population and black people represent just 13% of the population. It doesn't matter what percentage of the population you represent, it matters what representation of the violent community you represent, and unfortunately, black community commit a disproportionate amount of crimes compared to the white community'

'We commit 50% more of the violent offences and we're only 13% of the population, so we have a lot more encounters with police officers'

'The police officers have way more to be fearful of in the black community than the other way round'

'This entire narrative is complete smoke and mirrors. It's all made up. It's white versus black because its an election year, not because black Americans are suffering at the hands of the police officers more than white Americans'

'The best way to not be brutalised by a police officer is to limit the amount of encounters you have to have with them'.

'This is why we have this cycle because no one wants to tell the truth in Black America'.

'We don't do personal responsibility in our community. We blame white people'

She spends a lot of time talking about George Floyd's character, which is entirely irrelevant to this. She does (concede?) that he didn't deserve to die and she says this a few times throughout, but she wants to make it known that Floyd was a bad person. Why? Why is that important? Please tell me.

As Millenial Snowflake allures to, it is obviously dodgy ground attacking black people for conservative views as if they have to be liberals by the fact of their race. But she isn't just conservative. She is a white supremacist apologist and her elevation in the media is to make white people with backward views feel comfortable about their opinions because at least she said it!

If I didn't believe in BLM or didn't believe in disproportionate opportunity and justice against black people I'd probably find this video very comforting.

So, which bits did you find enlightening? Or which points did Sid Bishop think were good?

Excited to read 'Hey, I don't find her points are true! I just thought it was an interesting watch!'. Slippery.