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Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:02 pm
by tuffers#1
Officially called as a terrorist attack by the far right
Police have said
White man Murders ethnic minority.
In Germany

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:11 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Also another non-terrorist attack closer to home https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51578770

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:15 pm
by tuffers#1
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:11 pm Also another non-terrorist attack closer to home https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51578770
That has not been confirmed as a terror attack

Germany has by the Police

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:46 pm
by Dunners
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:11 pm Also another non-terrorist attack closer to home https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51578770
The attacker was a Muslim who's repeatedly attended prayers for decades. Not sure why he stabbed his Imam, but not sounding very terroristyyy so far.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 pm
by Lucky7
Dunners wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:46 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:11 pm Also another non-terrorist attack closer to home https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51578770
The attacker was a Muslim who's repeatedly attended prayers for decades. Not sure why he stabbed his Imam, but not sounding very terroristyyy so far.
The Gentleman Who was unfortunately stabbed is a muezzin not an Imam big difference also
Abi Watik, who witnessed the attack, said the arrested man had been seen at the mosque previously
Doesn’t really equate to your decades/Muslim quote

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:56 pm
by Dunners
Fair enough. Someone I know who prays there suggested he was a Muslim and had been for some time. He didn't say he'd always prayed at that particular mosque. But I'm just passing on heresay, so accept this could be complete bollocks.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:35 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Whenever there's a far right terrorist attack, and a thread appears, there's always someone who tries to deflect from it, by bringing up jihadi type violence.

These far right attacks are becoming more common, and are worrying. Governments seem to not take the far right as seriously as they do extremist muslim attacks

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:08 pm
by tuffers#1
Lucky7 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:46 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:11 pm Also another non-terrorist attack closer to home https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51578770
The attacker was a Muslim who's repeatedly attended prayers for decades. Not sure why he stabbed his Imam, but not sounding very terroristyyy so far.
The Gentleman Who was unfortunately stabbed is a muezzin not an Imam big difference also
Abi Watik, who witnessed the attack, said the arrested man had been seen at the mosque previously
Doesn’t really equate to your decades/Muslim quote
1 of the interviewed said he had been seen at the mosque for around 6 months.

As he was pictured with no shoes after being restrained he would have been accustomed to mosque etiquette.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:37 pm
by Lucky7
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:08 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:46 pm

The attacker was a Muslim who's repeatedly attended prayers for decades. Not sure why he stabbed his Imam, but not sounding very terroristyyy so far.
The Gentleman Who was unfortunately stabbed is a muezzin not an Imam big difference also
Abi Watik, who witnessed the attack, said the arrested man had been seen at the mosque previously
Doesn’t really equate to your decades/Muslim quote
1 of the interviewed said he had been seen at the mosque for around 6 months.

As he was pictured with no shoes after being restrained he would have been accustomed to mosque etiquette.
Agreed Tuffers re no shoes but 6 Months is not decades

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:55 pm
by tuffers#1
Lucky7 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:37 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:08 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 pm

The Gentleman Who was unfortunately stabbed is a muezzin not an Imam big difference also
Abi Watik, who witnessed the attack, said the arrested man had been seen at the mosque previously
Doesn’t really equate to your decades/Muslim quote
1 of the interviewed said he had been seen at the mosque for around 6 months.

As he was pictured with no shoes after being restrained he would have been accustomed to mosque etiquette.
Agreed Tuffers re no shoes but 6 Months is not decades
Agreed Lucky , but you know this board loves an over exaggeration.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:02 am
by Lucky7
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:55 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:37 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:08 pm

1 of the interviewed said he had been seen at the mosque for around 6 months.

As he was pictured with no shoes after being restrained he would have been accustomed to mosque etiquette.
Agreed Tuffers re no shoes but 6 Months is not decades
Agreed Lucky , but you know this board loves an over exaggeration.
In fairness Dunners did say it might be exaggerated 👍

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:18 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Only after he’d been pulled up for spreading his usual far right fake news.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:50 am
by Disoriented
Making news grate again.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:59 am
by DonaldRocks
RedO wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:18 am Only after he’d been pulled up for spreading his usual far right fake news.
Far right threats and violence is on the rise worldwide. I wouldn't be as dismissive.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am
by StillSpike
I see that Far Right Extremist, Paul Golding, has been caught on Terrorism charges.

We need to get these folk behind bars for a very long stretch sharpish.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:11 am
by tuffers#1
StillSpike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am I see that Far Right Extremist, Paul Golding, has been caught on Terrorism charges.

We need to get these folk behind bars for a very long stretch sharpish.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.c ... e-11939055

Just in case of someone saying

LINK .

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 am
by spen666
StillSpike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am I see that Far Right Extremist, Paul Golding, has been caught on Terrorism charges.

We need to get these folk behind bars for a very long stretch sharpish.
Hardly an act of terrorism.

He is alleged to have failed to provide the police with the PIN to access one or more electronic devices he holds ie not giving them the PIN to unlock his phone.

Its an offence that is not uncommon. My work have prosecuted a number of similar cases. Usually (not always) punishment is a non custodial sentence.

Finally, before any prison sentence can be considered, you need to have a conviction and this person has not yet even had his 1st court hearing let alone his trial

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
spen666 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 am
StillSpike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am I see that Far Right Extremist, Paul Golding, has been caught on Terrorism charges.

We need to get these folk behind bars for a very long stretch sharpish.
Hardly an act of terrorism.

He is alleged to have failed to provide the police with the PIN to access one or more electronic devices he holds ie not giving them the PIN to unlock his phone.

Its an offence that is not uncommon. My work have prosecuted a number of similar cases. Usually (not always) punishment is a non custodial sentence.

Finally, before any prison sentence can be considered, you need to have a conviction and this person has not yet even had his 1st court hearing let alone his trial
He has been charged with an act of terrorism. That is an indisputable fact. You may look up to this guy and not want to accept it, but it has happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581497

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:04 pm
by Max B Gold
RedO wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20 pm
spen666 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 am
StillSpike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am I see that Far Right Extremist, Paul Golding, has been caught on Terrorism charges.

We need to get these folk behind bars for a very long stretch sharpish.
Hardly an act of terrorism.

He is alleged to have failed to provide the police with the PIN to access one or more electronic devices he holds ie not giving them the PIN to unlock his phone.

Its an offence that is not uncommon. My work have prosecuted a number of similar cases. Usually (not always) punishment is a non custodial sentence.

Finally, before any prison sentence can be considered, you need to have a conviction and this person has not yet even had his 1st court hearing let alone his trial
He has been charged with an act of terrorism. That is an indisputable fact. You may look up to this guy and not want to accept it, but it has happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581497
I'm not convinced locking guys like him up is enough.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:58 pm
by StillSpike
Get him in Belmarsh - open association.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:00 pm
by Max B Gold
StillSpike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:58 pm Get him in Belmarsh - open association.
Good thinking. Assange will do him.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:28 pm
by spen666
RedO wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20 pm
spen666 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 am
StillSpike wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am I see that Far Right Extremist, Paul Golding, has been caught on Terrorism charges.

We need to get these folk behind bars for a very long stretch sharpish.
Hardly an act of terrorism.

He is alleged to have failed to provide the police with the PIN to access one or more electronic devices he holds ie not giving them the PIN to unlock his phone.

Its an offence that is not uncommon. My work have prosecuted a number of similar cases. Usually (not always) punishment is a non custodial sentence.

Finally, before any prison sentence can be considered, you need to have a conviction and this person has not yet even had his 1st court hearing let alone his trial
He has been charged with an act of terrorism. That is an indisputable fact. You may look up to this guy and not want to accept it, but it has happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581497
He has been charged with failing to provide the PIN/Access codes to his electronic devices.

You may not want to accept it, but it has happened.


As for looking up to this person, why is correctly stating the offence someone is charged with and point thing out he has not yet been convicted mean I look up to someone?

It's called stating facts. I have not said anything about my opinion of this person ever

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:31 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
So you accept he has been charged with an offence under the Terrorism Act? Good.

No one is saying he’s a terrorist yet, just that he’s been charged with it.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:32 pm
by Disoriented
spen666 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:28 pm
RedO wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20 pm
spen666 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 am

Hardly an act of terrorism.

He is alleged to have failed to provide the police with the PIN to access one or more electronic devices he holds ie not giving them the PIN to unlock his phone.

Its an offence that is not uncommon. My work have prosecuted a number of similar cases. Usually (not always) punishment is a non custodial sentence.

Finally, before any prison sentence can be considered, you need to have a conviction and this person has not yet even had his 1st court hearing let alone his trial
He has been charged with an act of terrorism. That is an indisputable fact. You may look up to this guy and not want to accept it, but it has happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581497
He has been charged with failing to provide the PIN/Access codes to his electronic devices.

You may not want to accept it, but it has happened.


As for looking up to this person, why is correctly stating the offence someone is charged with and point thing out he has not yet been convicted mean I look up to someone?

It's called stating facts. I have not said anything about my opinion of this person ever
Great. Keep it to yourself then. Some things are better left unsaid.

Re: Terrorist atack in Germany

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:34 pm
by spen666
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:32 pm
spen666 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:28 pm
RedO wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20 pm

He has been charged with an act of terrorism. That is an indisputable fact. You may look up to this guy and not want to accept it, but it has happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581497
He has been charged with failing to provide the PIN/Access codes to his electronic devices.

You may not want to accept it, but it has happened.


As for looking up to this person, why is correctly stating the offence someone is charged with and point thing out he has not yet been convicted mean I look up to someone?

It's called stating facts. I have not said anything about my opinion of this person ever
Great. Keep it to yourself then. Some things are better left unsaid.
Got a problem with people telling the truth? Does it get in the way of your spin and deception?