Bernie Sanders
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:22 am
The yanks wouldn’t, would they?
Corbyn Mark 2?
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My American friend is a Democrat and he likes Senator Amy Klobuchar. He says ''she is a great speaker, both funny and serious, and she is very personable. She is also moving up in the polls.''
f*** sakeUpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:16 amSorry Sid I immediately smiled and thought of her climbing a pole dancing - I best google her and see if she the typeSid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:54 amMy American friend is a Democrat and he likes Senator Amy Klobuchar. He says ''she is a great speaker, both funny and serious, and she is very personable. She is also moving up in the polls.''
Sadly, I can't see any of that happening. I fear we are stuck with Trump until 2024UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:38 amFor the sanity of the world I hope they find some one any one that kicks trump back up one his towers and then locks all doors and remove his Twitter so we never hear from that big mouth twit againComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:25 am Bernie is a wonderful man, and i would vote for him in a heartbeat if i was American. First he has to get the Democratic nomination.4 years ago, they used some jiggery pokery to make sure Hillary got the nomination.
If he manages that, then youll see the same thing as happened to Corbyn, happen to Bernie.....Overnight he'll become anti-semitic ( yeah I know hes Jewish, but that wont stop the right wing), He will be made into a bogey man etc etc
He is so the opposite of Trump.....a kind, thoughtful man
As my American friend says, in the USA any form of socialism is viewed as akin to being a form of Communism.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:25 am Bernie is a wonderful man, and i would vote for him in a heartbeat if i was American. First he has to get the Democratic nomination.4 years ago, they used some jiggery pokery to make sure Hillary got the nomination.
If he manages that, then youll see the same thing as happened to Corbyn, happen to Bernie.....Overnight he'll become anti-semitic ( yeah I know hes Jewish, but that wont stop the right wing), He will be made into a bogey man etc etc
He is so the opposite of Trump.....a kind, thoughtful man
just sad that when someone mentions a promising woman, who could be president one day, your first thought is imagining them on a strippers pole.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:00 amA light moment said in zest - do you really think that is not understandableApple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:42 amf*** sakeUpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:16 am
Sorry Sid I immediately smiled and thought of her climbing a pole dancing - I best google her and see if she the type
Great point. When they slam him as a Socialist, they actually mean like Socialist/Communist as in Soviet/Venezuela style when he is more in the category of Social Democrat European style. So many Americans go bankrupt after being in hospital as they don't have health insurance. Many loose their life savings after surgery.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:07 amAs my American friend says, in the USA any form of socialism is viewed as akin to being a form of Communism.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:25 am Bernie is a wonderful man, and i would vote for him in a heartbeat if i was American. First he has to get the Democratic nomination.4 years ago, they used some jiggery pokery to make sure Hillary got the nomination.
If he manages that, then youll see the same thing as happened to Corbyn, happen to Bernie.....Overnight he'll become anti-semitic ( yeah I know hes Jewish, but that wont stop the right wing), He will be made into a bogey man etc etc
He is so the opposite of Trump.....a kind, thoughtful man
Also any suggestion of an NHS type of healthcare is shunned by many and also it is a Country where it would be very hard for a woman or Gay man to be voted in as President. The mindset in the ''Rustbelt'' and most Southern states is on the whole, very right wing and Republican Territory, places where they still talk of having armed militias which they would use to resist their own countries military, many still have that American Civil war North versus South mindset and they strongly resist any legislation to bring in any forms of tighter gun control. From what my friend tells me, the most liberal minded part of the USA is California.
Still not ok to objectify a woman like that mateUpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:19 amDon't know the lady from a bar of soap - my eyes went straight to the last words that's all - I know pole was spelt correctly by Sid as polls - I best stick to being more serious - comedy was never my bagApple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:15 amjust sad that when someone mentions a promising woman, who could be president one day, your first thought is imagining them on a strippers pole.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:00 am
A light moment said in zest - do you really think that is not understandable
I guess in a world of political correctness if it had been a man that I suggested climbed a pole you would of just dismissed it as a stupid remark without the gender implications getting your attention and needing any comment
Ok I see its 2020 now and sensitivity on gender is rampant
The way Trump is going, with his party members grovelling to go to great steps to keep him in power, what are the chances of a Trump family dynasty taking over USA politics in North Korean style. 50 years of Trumps being in power ! Dont underestimate the way that Trump could get the rules changed to suit himself and his family, Putin style rules to keep his and his families hold onto power.RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:32 amGreat point. When they slam him as a Socialist, they actually mean like Socialist/Communist as in Soviet/Venezuela style when he is more in the category of Social Democrat European style. So many Americans go bankrupt after being in hospital as they don't have health insurance. Many loose their life savings after surgery.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:07 amAs my American friend says, in the USA any form of socialism is viewed as akin to being a form of Communism.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:25 am Bernie is a wonderful man, and i would vote for him in a heartbeat if i was American. First he has to get the Democratic nomination.4 years ago, they used some jiggery pokery to make sure Hillary got the nomination.
If he manages that, then youll see the same thing as happened to Corbyn, happen to Bernie.....Overnight he'll become anti-semitic ( yeah I know hes Jewish, but that wont stop the right wing), He will be made into a bogey man etc etc
He is so the opposite of Trump.....a kind, thoughtful man
Also any suggestion of an NHS type of healthcare is shunned by many and also it is a Country where it would be very hard for a woman or Gay man to be voted in as President. The mindset in the ''Rustbelt'' and most Southern states is on the whole, very right wing and Republican Territory, places where they still talk of having armed militias which they would use to resist their own countries military, many still have that American Civil war North versus South mindset and they strongly resist any legislation to bring in any forms of tighter gun control. From what my friend tells me, the most liberal minded part of the USA is California.
Perhaps, it's not a great example of a great world democratic country after all. As things stand in America, their future democracy is at stake, and it's happening in open sight.
Trumps a vindictive narcissist conman who will try and sow so much division to try and remain in power. He couldn't care less about America and he demands loyalty like the dear leader in China and North Korea not to mention the undemocratic autocratic Royal Families in many of the Gulf States. He will not give up office even unelected. He is fully committed to using all institutions against his perceived enemies. He has said multiple times that the police, army and militias are with him. In comparison to Nazis Germany, we are in the year 1936.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:11 pmThe way Trump is going, with his party members grovelling to go to great steps to keep him in power, what are the chances of a Trump family dynasty taking over USA politics in North Korean style. 50 years of Trumps being in power ! Dont underestimate the way that Trump could get the rules changed to suit himself and his family, Putin style rules to keep his and his families hold onto power.RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:32 amGreat point. When they slam him as a Socialist, they actually mean like Socialist/Communist as in Soviet/Venezuela style when he is more in the category of Social Democrat European style. So many Americans go bankrupt after being in hospital as they don't have health insurance. Many loose their life savings after surgery.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:07 am
As my American friend says, in the USA any form of socialism is viewed as akin to being a form of Communism.
Also any suggestion of an NHS type of healthcare is shunned by many and also it is a Country where it would be very hard for a woman or Gay man to be voted in as President. The mindset in the ''Rustbelt'' and most Southern states is on the whole, very right wing and Republican Territory, places where they still talk of having armed militias which they would use to resist their own countries military, many still have that American Civil war North versus South mindset and they strongly resist any legislation to bring in any forms of tighter gun control. From what my friend tells me, the most liberal minded part of the USA is California.
Perhaps, it's not a great example of a great world democratic country after all. As things stand in America, their future democracy is at stake, and it's happening in open sight.
Could well be right, but will another Trump follow on after him ?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:57 pm I'll make this prediction . No matter who the Democrat's choose Trump will win another 4 years in office .