Off My Chest

[BigDaddyO]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

[Fanny]

What a long winded way of saying “I don’t like it that people have different opinions to me on an online forum”

If I don’t like how Embleton is managing the team then I’ll say so. The fact that the club nearly went bust a few years ago is irrelevant.

This idea that moaning about Leyton Orient on a Leyton Orient message board is unacceptable is, quite frankly, bizarre.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Hi Nigel.

[BigDaddyO]

Hi Nigel.

Hi Francesco.

[BigDaddyO]

What a long winded way of saying “I don’t like it that people have different opinions to me on an online forum”

If I don’t like how Embleton is managing the team then I’ll say so. The fact that the club nearly went bust a few years ago is irrelevant.

This idea that moaning about Leyton Orient on a Leyton Orient message board is unacceptable is, quite frankly, bizarre.

Fair, everyone is entitled to their own view.

Personally I think the fact that the club came very close to not existing 30 months ago is extremely relevant, and that we've made great strides since then.

You can moan about the Os, and I can moan about you incessantly moaning about the Os. Circle of life.

[Long slender neck]

What a long winded way of saying “I don’t like it that people have different opinions to me on an online forum”

If I don’t like how Embleton is managing the team then I’ll say so. The fact that the club nearly went bust a few years ago is irrelevant.

This idea that moaning about Leyton Orient on a Leyton Orient message board is unacceptable is, quite frankly, bizarre.

Thought you werent posting anymore?

[Max B Gold]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

East London is full of professional moaners. You need to get used to it. It's not America.

[MrB]

What a long winded way of saying “I don’t like it that people have different opinions to me on an online forum”

If I don’t like how Embleton is managing the team then I’ll say so. The fact that the club nearly went bust a few years ago is irrelevant.

This idea that moaning about Leyton Orient on a Leyton Orient message board is unacceptable is, quite frankly, bizarre.

Thought you werent posting anymore?

[MrB]

What a long winded way of saying “I don’t like it that people have different opinions to me on an online forum”

If I don’t like how Embleton is managing the team then I’ll say so. The fact that the club nearly went bust a few years ago is irrelevant.

This idea that moaning about Leyton Orient on a Leyton Orient message board is unacceptable is, quite frankly, bizarre.

Fair, everyone is entitled to their own view.

Personally I think the fact that the club came very close to not existing 30 months ago is extremely relevant, and that we've made great strides since then.

You can moan about the Os, and I can moan about you incessantly moaning about the Os. Circle of life.

So Yeah so let the circle roll on..If you wanna moan bloody go ahead and moan if you don’t wanna moan then ...Don’t

[MrB]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

That’s a mighty big chest by the way

[Fanny]

What a long winded way of saying “I don’t like it that people have different opinions to me on an online forum”

If I don’t like how Embleton is managing the team then I’ll say so. The fact that the club nearly went bust a few years ago is irrelevant.

This idea that moaning about Leyton Orient on a Leyton Orient message board is unacceptable is, quite frankly, bizarre.

Thought you werent posting anymore?

I’ll just go and set up a load of other accounts and post from them. Seems to be standard practice around here...

[DonaldRocks]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

Hope your feeling better now Nigel. Have a nice day.

[kokomO]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

Hey Martin,

We moan when we want , we moan when we waaaaaaant, we're Leyton Orient , we moan when we want!!!

League 2 football club, premier league moaners, it's what we do!

[BigDaddyO]

Hope your feeling better now Nigel. Have a nice day.
[/quote]

Why would you assume that someone with a positive outlook must be the owner?

Absurd point of view.

[Max B Gold]

Hope your feeling better now Nigel. Have a nice day.

Why would you assume that someone with a positive outlook must be the owner?

Absurd point of view.
[/quote]

Correct. Probably one of his lackeys.

[Sid Bishop]

Hope your feeling better now Nigel. Have a nice day.

Why would you assume that someone with a positive outlook must be the owner?

Absurd point of view.

Correct. Probably one of his lackeys.
[/quote]
Question for you Max, how come as the committed Scottish man that you are, that you ever got to support a little London football club like Leyton Orient ?

[Max B Gold]

Hope your feeling better now Nigel. Have a nice day.

Why would you assume that someone with a positive outlook must be the owner?

Absurd point of view.

Correct. Probably one of his lackeys.

Question for you Max, how come as the committed Scottish man that you are, that you ever got to support a little London football club like Leyton Orient ?
[/quote]

When I lived in Leytonstone they were my local team. I was a regular from 1987 to 2002.

I'm a natural moaner and was attracted to Orient like a moth to a flame and took my place amongst the professional moaners at Brisbane Road. I've never felt more at home.

I try to get to 3 or 4 games a year. Last year I managed 3 and probably watched 4 live on the tellybox.

This year I haven't made any but looking forward to resuming my annual pilgrimage to Carlisle in March with the OSF (Orient Scotch Firm).

[bobo66]

You are right, I'm sure we're all grateful that we still have a football club to support and we all enjoyed last season. The trouble is this season most of our games have been pretty crud (is that a word?) and after watching one of these games, having paid for the privilege paying and expecting to be entertained, it helps to come on here and have a bit of a moan about it.

As there at so few Orient supporters, this forum is a place where we can moan with other Orient supporters.

[Sid Bishop]

Why would you assume that someone with a positive outlook must be the owner?

Absurd point of view.

Correct. Probably one of his lackeys.

Question for you Max, how come as the committed Scottish man that you are, that you ever got to support a little London football club like Leyton Orient ?

When I lived in Leytonstone they were my local team. I was a regular from 1987 to 2002.

I'm a natural moaner and was attracted to Orient like a moth to a flame and took my place amongst the professional moaners at Brisbane Road. I've never felt more at home.

I try to get to 3 or 4 games a year. Last year I managed 3 and probably watched 4 live on the tellybox.

This year I haven't made any but looking forward to resuming my annual pilgrimage to Carlisle in March with the OSF (Orient Scotch Firm).
[/quote]

Thanks for your reply Max.
So you strayed North of the border for 15 years, you must have missed your roots back in ''Scotchland'' !
Good on you mate !

[BigDaddyO]

You are right, I'm sure we're all grateful that we still have a football club to support and we all enjoyed last season. The trouble is this season most of our games have been pretty crud (is that a word?) and after watching one of these games, having paid for the privilege paying and expecting to be entertained, it helps to come on here and have a bit of a moan about it.

As there at so few Orient supporters, this forum is a place where we can moan with other Orient supporters.

Fair comment, and I understand the viewpoint completely - I enjoy a moan about the Os as well.

It's just when every single thread on this forum descends into 'Embleflop out', or petty name calling without debate between rival posters that I lose hope.

[Fanny]

You are right, I'm sure we're all grateful that we still have a football club to support and we all enjoyed last season. The trouble is this season most of our games have been pretty crud (is that a word?) and after watching one of these games, having paid for the privilege paying and expecting to be entertained, it helps to come on here and have a bit of a moan about it.

As there at so few Orient supporters, this forum is a place where we can moan with other Orient supporters.

Fair comment, and I understand the viewpoint completely - I enjoy a moan about the Os as well.

It's just when every single thread on this forum descends into 'Embleflop out', or petty name calling without debate between rival posters that I lose hope.

Could you direct me to the threads where people have directly called for “Embleton out”.

All I’ve seen are reasonable critiques of his management ability.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

While you make some excellent and valid points you’re forgetting the fact that all football clubs have their moaners when things aren’t going well. This board is far from unique. Try looking at the West Ham board if you don’t believe me. It’s just part and parcel of supporting a football club. That doesn’t make things right, it’s just the way it is. You take the rough with the smooth, etc, etc.

[tuffers#1]

"Brisbane Rosd is full of moaners "

Is it f*ck .

Maybe the pubs some frequented before the game did that . The Birkbeck , The Northcote .

The Oliver ( alma , 4 finches ) coach & horses , lion & key or the Blackbirds were much more optimistic watering holes.

[ComeOnYouOs]

Hi everyone,

I don't post on here too much but I regularly read this forum and I just wanted to say something: I have never seen such a pessimistic board in all my life.

Have people forgotten that just 3 years ago we were being run into the ground? No one attending the games really cared that we were being relegated to the non-league after 112 successive years of league football, our concerns were for the very existence of our club - and rightly so. I'm sure that all of you, like me, can remember exactly where you were when the news came through of the Travis & Teague takeover, and how much relief and joy we all felt.

Fast forward a few years and we have bounced back from the non-league in just 2 years - an amazing feat considering we barely had any players at the start of the 2018/19 season, and had two owners broadly inexperienced when it comes to owning a football club. Just look at some clubs comparable to Orient: Wrexham (currently 'enjoying' their 12th or 13th successive season in the conference), Chesterfield (staring down the barrel of the National League North), Hartlepool (mid-table national league fodder), and many others (York, Stockport, Notts County, Hereford, etc.). Nigel and Kent's plan was communicated clearly - we would return to the football league in a maximum of 5 years, we did it in 2. Not to mention that last season was fantastic - we finished as champions, won most of our games and enjoyed some truly memorable matches (0 - 2 away at Wrexham anyone?).

Now we find ourselves comfortably safe in League 2, with the 4th highest home attendance in the division - we are beginning to bring through some fine youth players after our academy was crippled a few years ago, and can start building for next season where we look likely to be top half and possibly threatening the play-offs.

Yet the majority of posts on here just complain angrily about Embleton playing someone slightly out of position, or how Ling never signs anyone good, or how the owners should sell up and go. These strike me as the kind of people who are never happy, who's only solace and joy in life is to complain and moan, who only think about what's immediately in front of them instead of the bigger picture.

Yes, Ross is unlikely to win the manager of the year award, sure Ling signs up a dud at about the same rate he finds someone decent, and I agree that it can be frustrating to see some of our best players played in strange positions or formations, but in the grand scheme of things the last couple of years should be celebrated and will surely go down in the history of the club as the beginning of our revival, not as some would have you believe, the Orient apocalypse.

That's all really, I just had to get that off my chest because objectively, we are a fantastic club, in a great position to push onward and upwards, and we have an awful lot to be happy and grateful for.

So when you see posts on here next week calling for Embleton and Ling's heads because we conceded a goal, or because someone had a poor game, I recommend you just ignore them, instead of feeding their childish rage by responding. Yes we have a right as paying supporters to complain when things are going badly (though I suspect many of the more criminal moaners on here don't actually attend games...), but things are not going badly, not right now, not by a long stretch.

Up The Os.

It wasnt that long ago, that we were playing Bournemouth & Brighton on a regular basis in League 1 and in league 2, now theyre both in the Premier League.
Only 5 years ago we were playing Brentford, in league 1, now they are 4th in the championship, & have the possibility of going up to the Premier League.
The op wants us all to be grateful for being a struggling league 2 side thats probably safe, because Bury were thrown out the league, and Stevenage are the worst league team for years
Our owners have no intention of ever getting us to the Premier League, or even The Championship.....they are happy to see us as a league 1 club.
Bournemouth and Brighton has ambition...something our owners lack

[Long slender neck]

They're much bigger clubs than us and had the advantage of not being run into the ground by mad italians.