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Glad she lost her appeal, don't want people like that in this country. She knew what she was doing and fully participated in a life of pure evil.

Interesting that you considered it harsh on another thread, to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse, but are happy that a a decision kicking someone out of the country, made at 15 years old, should be upheld.

Brainwashed 15 year old child.

Still, Javid has to be seen to be tough on this sort of thing, doesn't he.

I would say that a 15 year old knows the difference between right and wrong, or should know the difference. If anyone is to blame for her being deceived/brainwashed, it is the parents.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:12 pm Interesting that you considered it harsh on another thread, to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse, but are happy that a a decision kicking someone out of the country, made at 15 years old, should be upheld.

If you are referring to me, I have not expressed an opinion on this story.

Stop projecting your views about me when they have no factual basis.



Oh, and I have not said it is harsh for a 17 year old to be put inside for racial abuse, but don't worry, just keep making things up

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:14 pm Brainwashed 15 year old child.

Still, Javid has to be seen to be tough on this sort of thing, doesn't he.

When will he be going after the Ant-semites in his party? That's what I want to know.

She was a silly wee lassie. Gie her a thick ear, let her back in and deradicalise her.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:52 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:14 pm Brainwashed 15 year old child.

Still, Javid has to be seen to be tough on this sort of thing, doesn't he.

When will he be going after the Ant-semites in his party? That's what I want to know.

She was a silly wee lassie. Gie her a thick ear, let her back in and deradicalise her.

That won't appease the gammon vote, though.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:47 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:12 pm Interesting that you considered it harsh on another thread, to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse, but are happy that a a decision kicking someone out of the country, made at 15 years old, should be upheld.

If you are referring to me, I have not expressed an opinion on this story.

Stop projecting your views about me when they have no factual basis.



Oh, and I have not said it is harsh for a 17 year old to be put inside for racial abuse, but don't worry, just keep making things up

Yeah, alright. Your topic title tells it all. But keep telling yourself that you are purely projecting the 'facts' rather than your rather obvious sentiment.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:17 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:47 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:12 pm Interesting that you considered it harsh on another thread, to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse, but are happy that a a decision kicking someone out of the country, made at 15 years old, should be upheld.

If you are referring to me, I have not expressed an opinion on this story.

Stop projecting your views about me when they have no factual basis.



Oh, and I have not said it is harsh for a 17 year old to be put inside for racial abuse, but don't worry, just keep making things up

Yeah, alright. Your topic title tells it all. But keep telling yourself that you are purely projecting the 'facts' rather than your rather obvious sentiment.

You clearly do not comprehend English. I posed several questions in the title. The use of the symbol "?" denotes it is a question, not a statement of opinion I have not expressed my view on the merits of her appeal or otherwise. In the same way as I never said it was harsh to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse.

You have no idea what my sentiment on this story is, because I have not expressed any such sentiment.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:59 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:52 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:14 pm Brainwashed 15 year old child.

Still, Javid has to be seen to be tough on this sort of thing, doesn't he.

When will he be going after the Ant-semites in his party? That's what I want to know.

She was a silly wee lassie. Gie her a thick ear, let her back in and deradicalise her.

That won't appease the gammon vote, though.

The thick ear bit was my concession to them. If they choose to reject my compromise then so be it. They are bad people, very bad people.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:23 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:17 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:47 pm

If you are referring to me, I have not expressed an opinion on this story.

Stop projecting your views about me when they have no factual basis.



Oh, and I have not said it is harsh for a 17 year old to be put inside for racial abuse, but don't worry, just keep making things up

Yeah, alright. Your topic title tells it all. But keep telling yourself that you are purely projecting the 'facts' rather than your rather obvious sentiment.

You clearly do not comprehend English. I posed several questions in the title. The use of the symbol "?" denotes it is a question, not a statement of opinion I have not expressed my view on the merits of her appeal or otherwise. In the same way as I never said it was harsh to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse.

You have no idea what my sentiment on this story is, because I have not expressed any such sentiment.

Yeah, yep, sure. You keep telling yourself that, pervayor of all things factual

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:31 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:23 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:17 pm

Yeah, alright. Your topic title tells it all. But keep telling yourself that you are purely projecting the 'facts' rather than your rather obvious sentiment.

You clearly do not comprehend English. I posed several questions in the title. The use of the symbol "?" denotes it is a question, not a statement of opinion I have not expressed my view on the merits of her appeal or otherwise. In the same way as I never said it was harsh to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse.

You have no idea what my sentiment on this story is, because I have not expressed any such sentiment.

Yeah, yep, sure. You keep telling yourself that, pervayor of all things factual

Do you mean purveyor?


Still waiting for you to explain where I have expressed my view on this story about her appeal

Has no one learned that Spen makes leading and ambiguous statements. As he knows full well that he doesn't say that but the way it's written obviously leads people to think that's his opinion.

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:08 pm Glad she lost her appeal, don't want people like that in this country. She knew what she was doing and fully participated in a life of pure evil.

To deradicalise the followers of ISIS is far easier said than done. I saw the Stacey Dooley documentary were she visited a camp full of the women who were followers of ISIS, she said before she arrived at the camp. there was an incident were one of the female guards was stabbed to death see video link below e.g 01:20. Very few of these prisoners show any signs of regret at all.

Panorama: Stacey Dooley meets Islamic State brides in Syria's refugee camps.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:34 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:31 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:23 pm


You clearly do not comprehend English. I posed several questions in the title. The use of the symbol "?" denotes it is a question, not a statement of opinion I have not expressed my view on the merits of her appeal or otherwise. In the same way as I never said it was harsh to put a 17 year old inside for racial abuse.

You have no idea what my sentiment on this story is, because I have not expressed any such sentiment.

Yeah, yep, sure. You keep telling yourself that, pervayor of all things factual

Do you mean purveyor?


Still waiting for you to explain where I have expressed my view on this story about her appeal

If you look at the evidence, go on it's out there, most young people who are radicalised don't come from families that have a strong religious set up. It's nearly always someone looking for identity and belonging. They are prayed on by those exploiting their cultural, ethnic or religious background with promises of being seen as important and relevant. Not dissimilar to how vulnerable youngsters having always been targeted by criminal gangs with promises of wealth and status.

She is a victim, how you rehabilitate her is another matter, although there is a proportion of people who feel she shouldn't be given the chance.

She's no longer a UK citizen so who cares

Bangladesh, Foreign Minister has said she is nothing to do with his Country, and who blame them, for not wanting be dumped on. The UK Government knows it has two options, break the law and make her stateless, or the other option which is, more likely to happen, she comes back.

whittle81 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:48 pm Bangladesh, Foreign Minister has said she is nothing to do with his Country, and who blame them, for not wanting be dumped on. The UK Government knows it has two options, break the law and make her stateless, or the other option which is, more likely to happen, she comes back.

So she comes back and we deal with what we created. Bearing in mind what The Mindsweep said.

It's not an easy choice but we do have to deal with it.

Leave her to rot wherever she is. People like her don’t get rehabilitated, they don’t deserve to be in this country after doing what they do. Sorry she lost that right a long time ago.

She's already had her citizenship removed, legally according to the courts

She was given every opportunity in life but decided to squander those chances to partake in the mass murder of a group who had none of those opportunities

How do you de-radicalise someone when the have been brainwashed?
Have we not learnt the lesson of the last couple of terrorist attacks where the attackers have been released and subsequently killed innocent people?

Perhaps we should just have the police shoot them and cut out the deaths inbetween.

Lets panic and keep them inside for longer, so they just kill people in 20 years instead of 5.

Lets not worry about why these kids are being radicalised, what social issues could cause these and then maybe why anyones surprised the prison system is failing after cuts for the last 10 years.

AW is nothing about social issues or cut backs. It's a religious ideology and the belief that everyone should be a Muslim and that everyone else is a non believer. It's an archaic view of the religion and world view.