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Why are the mods...

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:12 pm
by Fanny
...allowing one user (lucky7) to use multiple accounts to circumnavigate a ban and wind up other users?

He’s not even pretending that it isn’t him. Mods need to take control of this situation ASAP. Just ruins this place for everyone else.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:50 am
by HARVEY T DENTON
Just ruins this place for everyone else.

imagine that.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:55 am
by Disoriented
Huxley does have a salient point here.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:06 am
by Thor
Absolutely

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:18 am
by Long slender neck
1. I dont read every post on here
2. It is not easy to prove that a person is using an alias

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:24 am
by Long slender neck
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:55 am Huxley does have a salient point here.
Says the man who hides behind a VPN. Maybe you're Lucky7?

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Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:27 am
by Thor
Maybe he’s connecting via work? In my last role I was always connected via a VPN although it was out of Vegas so maybe it would always show that? Or does it still rotate the location? Genuine question as I don’t know.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:49 am
by Fanny
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:24 am
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:55 am Huxley does have a salient point here.
Says the man who hides behind a VPN. Maybe you're Lucky7?

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I appreciate that it’s not easy to prove users have multiple accounts but the current case of Lucky7 currently using two other accounts (soloman and wheredoyouknowmefrom) during his ban is completely obvious. You also caught him using the PheonixO account, so clearly you are able to to detect that he is using multiple accounts.

I don’t bother reporting him anymore because the last time I sent a complaint about him openly calling me a c*** on a thread you decided to ban me for “feuding” whilst letting him continue. I served the ban then sent you a polite personal message asking why I was banned and he wasn’t, to which you ignored.

Clearly you have no interest in moderating this board fairly. Ultimately it doesn’t matter, it’s just a small Leyton Orient message board. But when the moderation is so blatantly unfit for purpose and you have trolls being allowed to break all sorts of rules, impacting various honest users along the way, then it has to be called out.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:12 am
by Long slender neck
Can you highlight the evidence that he is using these other two accounts please?

I believe the feuding ban was because you had deliberately started yet another thread about him. Why cant you just leave it alone?

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:13 am
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:24 am
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:55 am Huxley does have a salient point here.
Says the man who hides behind a VPN. Maybe you're Lucky7?

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Read Thor’s comment above.

What’s your problem?

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:14 am
by ComeOnYouOs
The thread is called why are the mods..I would like to ask.WHO ARE THE MODS!!!!.Genuine question.
Mods usually have their names in green type, but I havent seen a post with a title in green type for ages. PW has red type in his name, which suggests admin, not mod!
Are there actually any mods now...it seems not, but i would like to know for sure

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:19 am
by Long slender neck
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:13 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:24 am
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:55 am Huxley does have a salient point here.
Says the man who hides behind a VPN. Maybe you're Lucky7?

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Read Thor’s comment above.

What’s your problem?
Because I want to know why you post from Albania one day and Australia the next. Why go to such lengths to post on a football forum?

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:22 am
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:19 am
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:13 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:24 am

Says the man who hides behind a VPN. Maybe you're Lucky7?

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Read Thor’s comment above.

What’s your problem?
Because I want to know why you post from Albania one day and Australia the next. Why go to such lengths to post on a football forum?
Again, I refer you to Thor’s comment and again repeat my question.

Why not spend more time moderating the forum from the poisonous, trolling filth of someone with more aliases than Kim Philby?

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:25 am
by Fanny
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:12 am Can you highlight the evidence that he is using these other two accounts please?

I believe the feuding ban was because you had deliberately started yet another thread about him. Why cant you just leave it alone?
My point was that it takes 2 to feud, so why ban me and not him too? Surely calling somebody a c*** on a thread deserves a ban in itself, feud or no feud.

Evidence that Lucky7 is using those two accounts:

1. He uses the same language/insults towards users (specifically Thor)
2. He has digs at all the same users as his Lucky7 account (me, Thor, Andy Gilson, Dis)
3. Those accounts were created in late December and have only recently become active during Lucky7’s ban
4. He doesn’t deny that he is lucky7 when confronted


Come on. It’s so blatant. There’s a phrase I hear at Orient a lot “ref he’s taking the p*ss out of you”. Think it applies here.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:05 am
by Long slender neck
Disoriented wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:22 am

Again, I refer you to Thor’s comment and again repeat my question.

Why not spend more time moderating the forum from the poisonous, trolling filth of someone with more aliases than Kim Philby?
You're saying its because of work? Strange job you have.

The truth is you're posting from behind a VPN to hide your identity.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:07 am
by Long slender neck
Huxley wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:25 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:12 am Can you highlight the evidence that he is using these other two accounts please?

I believe the feuding ban was because you had deliberately started yet another thread about him. Why cant you just leave it alone?
My point was that it takes 2 to feud, so why ban me and not him too? Surely calling somebody a c*** on a thread deserves a ban in itself, feud or no feud.

Evidence that Lucky7 is using those two accounts:

1. He uses the same language/insults towards users (specifically Thor)
2. He has digs at all the same users as his Lucky7 account (me, Thor, Andy Gilson, Dis)
3. Those accounts were created in late December and have only recently become active during Lucky7’s ban
4. He doesn’t deny that he is lucky7 when confronted


Come on. It’s so blatant. There’s a phrase I hear at Orient a lot “ref he’s taking the p*ss out of you”. Think it applies here.
Feud- because you start the feuds. Ignore him and he'll get bored.

What language does he use? I genuinely dont have the time to look at it in this much detail.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:08 am
by Long slender neck
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:14 am The thread is called why are the mods..I would like to ask.WHO ARE THE MODS!!!!.Genuine question.
Mods usually have their names in green type, but I havent seen a post with a title in green type for ages. PW has red type in his name, which suggests admin, not mod!
Are there actually any mods now...it seems not, but i would like to know for sure
An admin is also a mod.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:08 pm
by Fanny
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:07 am
Huxley wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:25 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:12 am Can you highlight the evidence that he is using these other two accounts please?

I believe the feuding ban was because you had deliberately started yet another thread about him. Why cant you just leave it alone?
My point was that it takes 2 to feud, so why ban me and not him too? Surely calling somebody a c*** on a thread deserves a ban in itself, feud or no feud.

Evidence that Lucky7 is using those two accounts:

1. He uses the same language/insults towards users (specifically Thor)
2. He has digs at all the same users as his Lucky7 account (me, Thor, Andy Gilson, Dis)
3. Those accounts were created in late December and have only recently become active during Lucky7’s ban
4. He doesn’t deny that he is lucky7 when confronted


Come on. It’s so blatant. There’s a phrase I hear at Orient a lot “ref he’s taking the p*ss out of you”. Think it applies here.
Feud- because you start the feuds. Ignore him and he'll get bored.

What language does he use? I genuinely dont have the time to look at it in this much detail.
The Wheredoyouknow me account has been going after Thor, whilst referring Andy Gilson. It’s well known that Lucky7 is always having digs at Gilson and Thor.

The Soloman account also went after Thor, calling him Thorbore a couple of times. he was constantly calling Thor boring on the lucky7 account. He called BiggsyMalone “Piggsy”. Lucky7 is well known on here for turning people’s user names into juvenile names. He is also known for going around calling others bad supporters, which he has done to Dis and Me under the Soloman account.

He also started a thread about his Lucky7 account asking where he has gone and that he was one of the best things about the board. Really sad stuff, I know.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:11 pm
by Long slender neck
All sounds a bit circumstancial.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:19 pm
by Fanny
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:11 pm All sounds a bit circumstancial.
You’re going to let a user continue to take the p*ss and make a mockery of the moderation of this board?

What I really want to know is why you felt that using the PhenoixO account whilst banned didn’t warrant a complete ban on the lucky7 account?

You openly acknowledge that Lucky7 was using another account to circumnavigate a ban. How on earth does that not result in a perma ban for all accounts involved?

Just tells users that bans are essentially meaningless because you can just log on using another account to continue to troll. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 pm
by Long slender neck
Why would I permanently ban someone just for using an alias?

His alias was banned permanently, his lucky7 ban was extended.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:40 pm
by Fanny
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 pm Why would I permanently ban someone just for using an alias?

His alias was banned permanently, his lucky7 ban was extended.
A person breaks the rules by using more than 1 account (which is a banning offence) and the punishment is ban one of the accounts but allowing the person to continue using the board.

That’s

A. Not actually punishing the person properly
B. Rendering banning redundant

Clearly you’re happy to let Lucky7 troll on this site. No idea why.

Can I confirm another thing, if I call Lucky7 a c*** when he comes back I won’t be banned? He was allowed to call me a c*** and escape banning so I’m assuming this leniency is extended to all users.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:10 pm
by Long slender neck
Wrong. A person serving a ban who uses an alias to post when banned, may have the alias perma banned and the ban for their regular account may also be extended.

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:12 pm
by Fanny
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:10 pm Wrong. A person serving a ban who uses an alias to post when banned, may have the alias perma banned and the ban for their regular account may also be extended.
And my question about calling Lucky7 a c***?

Just to recap, I’m asking what will happen if I call him a c*** on a thread?

The reason I ask is that because he called me a c**** on a thread and didn’t get a ban. Will the same leniency be granted to me (or other users)?

Re: Why are the mods...

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:16 pm
by Long slender neck
I'll probably ban you, a lot of these situations are unique so I'll judge each one separately.

I believe you had goaded him into calling you a c***, which is why I didn't ban him for it.