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Two good goals for the Os, including the goal ''poached'' by Ruel for our second one. It takes special players to get in the right place at the right time from close in and also not miss from that position, its an instinctive thing, something that you cannot coach into a player. At the highest level Jimmy Greaves and Messi are a two prime examples of great forwards, past and present, deadly in front of goal, both with the ability and 6th sense to come from nowhere to nick goals from in and around the 6 yard box.

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Lack of/poor marking for their goal. Gotta do that better.
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Matt let’s his man go who eventually scores, Dan also let his man go and when you see how weak the header was, it’s probbaly right that sarge should have made a better attempt at saving that. Like I said Brill was talking to him and showed him through actions about his movement, watch it again and his movement is slow and laboured.
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Just to add sarge should start the next game as should the whole starting 11 barring injuries.
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Thor wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:46 pm Just to add sarge should start the next game as should the whole starting 11 barring injuries.
yes, the old adage "why change a winning team".
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Thor wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:45 pm Matt let’s his man go who eventually scores, Dan also let his man go and when you see how weak the header was, it’s probbaly right that sarge should have made a better attempt at saving that. Like I said Brill was talking to him and showed him through actions about his movement, watch it again and his movement is slow and laboured.
Brill has some front, he wouldn’t have made half the saves Sarge has made.
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Sid Bishop wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:48 pm Two good goals for the Os, including the goal ''poached'' by Ruel for our second one. It takes special players to get in the right place at the right time from close in and also not miss from that position, its an instinctive thing, something that you cannot coach into a player. At the highest level Jimmy Greaves and Messi are a two prime examples of great forwards, past and present, deadly in front of goal, both with the ability and 6th sense to come from nowhere to nick goals from in and around the 6 yard box.
That goal wasn’t poached. It was a well worked move by Angol and Wright.

But yes, the finish was special.We havent had anyone in the club these past few years as likely to put that away as Ruel. He’s definitely a great prospect.

Which makes it even more baffling that he was being totally overlooked for the first half of this season when it’s clear he was ready to be given some game time,even if just from the bench.
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I can see him moving on to bigger and better things, I’d also like to think he will help to fire us up out of this league next season before he does go. The boy has a future no doubt about that. Let’s hope he keeps himself grounded, listens, learns and continues to work hard and he should progress nicely.
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RedO wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:57 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:48 pm Two good goals for the Os, including the goal ''poached'' by Ruel for our second one. It takes special players to get in the right place at the right time from close in and also not miss from that position, its an instinctive thing, something that you cannot coach into a player. At the highest level Jimmy Greaves and Messi are a two prime examples of great forwards, past and present, deadly in front of goal, both with the ability and 6th sense to come from nowhere to nick goals from in and around the 6 yard box.
That goal wasn’t poached. It was a well worked move by Angol and Wright.

But yes, the finish was special.We havent had anyone in the club these past few years as likely to put that away as Ruel. He’s definitely a great prospect.

Which makes it even more baffling that he was being totally overlooked for the first half of this season when it’s clear he was ready to be given some game time,even if just from the bench.
I’m sure Bonne and Koroma could of buried that
Did you mean a few months RedO rather than a few years?
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Thor wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:07 pm I can see him moving on to bigger and better things, I’d also like to think he will help to fire us up out of this league next season before he does go. The boy has a future no doubt about that. Let’s hope he keeps himself grounded, listens, learns and continues to work hard and he should progress nicely.
Then we can sell him for five bob to some league 1 team.😅
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RedO wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:57 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:48 pm Two good goals for the Os, including the goal ''poached'' by Ruel for our second one. It takes special players to get in the right place at the right time from close in and also not miss from that position, its an instinctive thing, something that you cannot coach into a player. At the highest level Jimmy Greaves and Messi are a two prime examples of great forwards, past and present, deadly in front of goal, both with the ability and 6th sense to come from nowhere to nick goals from in and around the 6 yard box.
That goal wasn’t poached. It was a well worked move by Angol and Wright.

But yes, the finish was special.We havent had anyone in the club these past few years as likely to put that away as Ruel. He’s definitely a great prospect.

Which makes it even more baffling that he was being totally overlooked for the first half of this season when it’s clear he was ready to be given some game time,even if just from the bench.
Goal poachers, fox in the box etc, call it what you like. Applies to players who have the knack of being in the right place at the right time to score goals from half chances when the ball is in and around the six yard box. Yes good work by Angol and Wright but how often do you see similar moves like that where the ball is put into the same sort of areas........and players put the ball wide, or mistime their run and don't get to the ball at all etc with the result of yet another missed chance.
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I've defended Sarge lots but that goal is just pathetic. I've watched it back a few times and I still can't believe its gone past him. We can criticise Dean Brill's performances this season but let's be fair he was clearly showing wear and tear after a long and relatively successful career. Sarge, at 22, isn't going to get any more supple and agile. He could do with dropping a few pounds and doing a bit of yoga. He's supposed to be a professional sportsman.
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Eat The Rich wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:51 pm I've defended Sarge lots but that goal is just pathetic. I've watched it back a few times and I still can't believe its gone past him. We can criticise Dean Brill's performances this season but let's be fair he was clearly showing wear and tear after a long and relatively successful career. Sarge, at 22, isn't going to get any more supple and agile. He could do with dropping a few pounds and doing a bit of yoga. He's supposed to be a professional sportsman.
Did not make much of an effort to stop the ball going in the net did he ! The ball was near to him but he just seemed to look at it and stick his hand up, his body did not move. Slow reflexes and little effort made, IMO, a good keeper would have stopped the header which was hardly a ''bullet'' header was it !
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Eat The Rich wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:51 pm I've defended Sarge lots but that goal is just pathetic. I've watched it back a few times and I still can't believe its gone past him. We can criticise Dean Brill's performances this season but let's be fair he was clearly showing wear and tear after a long and relatively successful career. Sarge, at 22, isn't going to get any more supple and agile. He could do with dropping a few pounds and doing a bit of yoga. He's supposed to be a professional sportsman.
Dropping a few pounds and doing some yoga? We are talking about Sarge here, not Brill?

I’ve not defended Sarge lots, in fact I’ve been calling for Vigaro to go straight in, but you can’t blame him for that.

There’s two guys standing in front of him ready to head the ball un marked, he doesn’t even know which one of them is going to head it so can’t properly set himself.

He issue here is Harold and Happe just letting their men run off the back of them like that. Really poor defending.
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RedO wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:31 am
Eat The Rich wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:51 pm I've defended Sarge lots but that goal is just pathetic. I've watched it back a few times and I still can't believe its gone past him. We can criticise Dean Brill's performances this season but let's be fair he was clearly showing wear and tear after a long and relatively successful career. Sarge, at 22, isn't going to get any more supple and agile. He could do with dropping a few pounds and doing a bit of yoga. He's supposed to be a professional sportsman.
Dropping a few pounds and doing some yoga? We are talking about Sarge here, not Brill?

I’ve not defended Sarge lots, in fact I’ve been calling for Vigaro to go straight in, but you can’t blame him for that.

There’s two guys standing in front of him ready to head the ball un marked, he doesn’t even know which one of them is going to head it so can’t properly set himself.

He issue here is Harold and Happe just letting their men run off the back of them like that. Really poor defending.
The backpost defending is rank, you'll get no argument there but a goalkeeper has to get something on that header. Its not point blank, its loopy, not a bullet header and its literally straight at him. I don't like Sarge's set position. His feet are flat, his arms are relaxed and his hands are down at his belly. He just looks really heavy and static.
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So Sargeant must do more yoga go on a diet sort his sticky feet And positioning out because a curling free kick couldn’t be defended properly by the Orient players in front of him

Thanks for the comedy👍
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A few years ago the keeper would have come out and taken both those blokes heads off. Not sure why seeing as keepers can virtually do anything when defending the goal, but they don’t do it anymore. 99% of modern keepers would not have saved that.
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Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:37 am
RedO wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:31 am
Eat The Rich wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:51 pm I've defended Sarge lots but that goal is just pathetic. I've watched it back a few times and I still can't believe its gone past him. We can criticise Dean Brill's performances this season but let's be fair he was clearly showing wear and tear after a long and relatively successful career. Sarge, at 22, isn't going to get any more supple and agile. He could do with dropping a few pounds and doing a bit of yoga. He's supposed to be a professional sportsman.
Dropping a few pounds and doing some yoga? We are talking about Sarge here, not Brill?

I’ve not defended Sarge lots, in fact I’ve been calling for Vigaro to go straight in, but you can’t blame him for that.

There’s two guys standing in front of him ready to head the ball un marked, he doesn’t even know which one of them is going to head it so can’t properly set himself.

He issue here is Harold and Happe just letting their men run off the back of them like that. Really poor defending.
The backpost defending is rank, you'll get no argument there but a goalkeeper has to get something on that header. Its not point blank, its loopy, not a bullet header and its literally straight at him. I don't like Sarge's set position. His feet are flat, his arms are relaxed and his hands are down at his belly. He just looks really heavy and static.
Watched it back again a few times and you’re wrong on all counts.
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Beradogs wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:54 am A few years ago the keeper would have come out and taken both those blokes heads off. Not sure why seeing as keepers can virtually do anything when defending the goal, but they don’t do it anymore. 99% of modern keepers would not have saved that.
More than a few years ago but yeah, I agree no keeper is coming for that cross 5ese days and not many are saving an unmarked header from two possible opponents just 5 yards out.
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Post by Adz »

Thought sarge should have claimed that cross for the goal, but his mistake of coming for one in the first half when he shouldn't have was probably on his mind
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Surely the bottom line is we're always going to let in goals, regardless of who's to blame. The key is them letting in more than we did. Always need to improve and do things better, but I'll take a win any day - it means we scored more than the opposition.
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EliotNes wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:23 pm Lack of/poor marking for their goal. Gotta do that better.
Exactly but some on here and social media were saying that it was Sargeant's fault because he didn't come out which is rubbish
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Right, watched it back again.

It's a great ball in. It's not lofted and floated, it's curling but low and direct, dropping just on the six yard box. Our back line had dropped off to the penalty spot at the moment the ball is played in, that's too deep. We should have held our line on the edge of the box.

If we hadn't dropped so deep, there's an argument for Sarge coming and claiming it. But not when we've allowed ourselves to be pushed back so far.
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From an attacking team perspective, you'd be happy with that delivery, an inswinging curling ball in the danger zone, which is just begging someone to attack it.

We should have defended it better and one thing they have been drilled on all their life is "track your man" and we failed to do that. Still it's something to work on when they practice set pieces and for the keeper to work on his movement under such deliveries.

I'm still happy we won and was pleased with our performance overall, we've a base to build on and push forwards with.
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Thor wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:16 pm From an attacking team perspective, you'd be happy with that delivery, an inswinging curling ball in the danger zone, which is just begging someone to attack it.

We should have defended it better and one thing they have been drilled on all their life is "track your man" and we failed to do that. Still it's something to work on when they practice set pieces and for the keeper to work on his movement under such deliveries.

I'm still happy we won and was pleased with our performance overall, we've a base to build on and push forwards with.
Good free kick, agree, but poor marking and keeper should have done better. As many others have said, years ago crosses put in around 6 yard box even penalty spot, decent keepers caught or punched away.
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