Independent Leyton Orient Forum

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:30 am Tuff

A player with a connection of a father to Lofc aint any use whatsoever

His father ain't going be kicking the ball and add any value

It's how good is the player not what father he has

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:11 am Be a good move .
His dad knows Orient Well.

If he scores goals like his old man id be happy enough.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:44 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:11 am Be a good move .
His dad knows Orient Well.

If he scores goals like his old man id be happy enough.

So because his daddy is Orient connected, that makes it a ‘good move’.

Now, where have I heard that before.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:54 am Why are they letting him go tuff

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:38 am Mungo has just posted this on the nice board.

Will join from Millwall as soon as they have signed their own new striker. They only have 3 on their books, two are playing and one on the bench.

So I suppose it might not happen. Ross did mention it in his most recent interview.

In all honesty I can't really see the point of an 18 year old who has never played a game coming in.

We've got our own Sotiriou and the way Ross plays with one up top I can't see him getting a sniff if he has to displace Wilkinson, Angol, Harrold and Sotiriou.

- what’s people’s thoughts on this? Surely we need two playing together in tandem as we continually leave the one isolated. Is an inexperienced 18 year old going to answer more questions asked of him on his own over an experienced player who is trying but being asked to do the graft without too much support?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:43 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:38 am Mungo has just posted this on the nice board.

Will join from Millwall as soon as they have signed their own new striker. They only have 3 on their books, two are playing and one on the bench.

So I suppose it might not happen. Ross did mention it in his most recent interview.

In all honesty I can't really see the point of an 18 year old who has never played a game coming in.

We've got our own Sotiriou and the way Ross plays with one up top I can't see him getting a sniff if he has to displace Wilkinson, Angol, Harrold and Sotiriou.

- what’s people’s thoughts on this? Surely we need two playing together in tandem as we continually leave the one isolated. Is an inexperienced 18 year old going to answer more questions asked of him on his own over an experienced player who is trying but being asked to do the graft without too much support?

Of course we need two playing up front. What’s the point of bringing in another striker and only playing a lone striker up front. Ross should be blaming his own negative tactics for our lack of goals. Our defence makes one mistake and it’s game over

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:25 pm Imagine being Ruel Sotiriou, working your nads off, going out on loan back to non-league to get some games (and goals), coming back and still not being used, finally getting 90 minutes at left f*cking midfield, scoring goals still, then hearing about this.

It has to be bullshit. If it's genuine, we are more clueless than I could possibly imagine. The only thing that makes me believe it could be true is it's a relative of one of Lingy's mates so would fit.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:18 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:43 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:38 am Mungo has just posted this on the nice board.

Will join from Millwall as soon as they have signed their own new striker. They only have 3 on their books, two are playing and one on the bench.

So I suppose it might not happen. Ross did mention it in his most recent interview.

In all honesty I can't really see the point of an 18 year old who has never played a game coming in.

We've got our own Sotiriou and the way Ross plays with one up top I can't see him getting a sniff if he has to displace Wilkinson, Angol, Harrold and Sotiriou.

- what’s people’s thoughts on this? Surely we need two playing together in tandem as we continually leave the one isolated. Is an inexperienced 18 year old going to answer more questions asked of him on his own over an experienced player who is trying but being asked to do the graft without too much support?

Of course we need two playing up front. What’s the point of bringing in another striker and only playing a lone striker up front. Ross should be blaming his own negative tactics for our lack of goals. Our defence makes one mistake and it’s game over

We have scored as many goals as Forest Green Rovers & there 2 points out of a play off place.

We need to stop conceding goals.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:18 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:43 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:38 am Mungo has just posted this on the nice board.

Will join from Millwall as soon as they have signed their own new striker. They only have 3 on their books, two are playing and one on the bench.

So I suppose it might not happen. Ross did mention it in his most recent interview.

In all honesty I can't really see the point of an 18 year old who has never played a game coming in.

We've got our own Sotiriou and the way Ross plays with one up top I can't see him getting a sniff if he has to displace Wilkinson, Angol, Harrold and Sotiriou.

- what’s people’s thoughts on this? Surely we need two playing together in tandem as we continually leave the one isolated. Is an inexperienced 18 year old going to answer more questions asked of him on his own over an experienced player who is trying but being asked to do the graft without too much support?

Of course we need two playing up front. What’s the point of bringing in another striker and only playing a lone striker up front. Ross should be blaming his own negative tactics for our lack of goals. Our defence makes one mistake and it’s game over

We have scored as many goals as Forest Green Rovers & there 2 points out of a play off place.

We need to stop conceding goals.

kokomO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:56 am Which to me is yet more evidence that the money's run out...

eagwgw wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:29 pm Bit harsh to blame him.

Lack of any closing down when the corner is cleared or Coulson not winning the ball back in, could be blamed.
Sargeant also could be partially at fault, don't think his positioning was slightly off and had drifted a step too far to the right. But we should have been behind at that point anyway.

Thing is with Cisse, a lot of his highlights show a player who can burst forward with the ball at pace from deeper positions and pass it around, that is certainly what we need, but that is only half the story, we also need a player who has the work-rate to win the ball back in the first place. On his (admittedly limited) highlights, I am pretty sure that he has the first, not entirely sure of the second. If he hasn't got the second then it is useless playing with Wright, because all he does is jog around.

The midfield thing is a blind spot really. Sentimentality won Clay player of the year, because he suffered stick in the first season, and going off that, he surely couldn't be bad. But just look at it this way; Bonne and Koroma ended up in the Championship this season. Marvin and Happe with linked with bigger clubs as well. Was there any interest in Clay even from a League 2 side? I doubt it. There were better players in the National League that season. Although Clay won the accolade, the real important cog in the midfield overall last year was Jobi.

I have the uneasy feeling Wright is another blind spot. Pretty much since the Fletcher thing he has been useless (his last goals from open play were the 3-3 v Port Vale), but he is undroppable, maybe because as Justin's last signing he is seen as part of the legacy. He could do with a spell out of the side. If we go 4-4-2 I reckon Cisse and Clay have to be the two in midfield because of the lack of work-rate on the wings.

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:49 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:18 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:43 pm

Of course we need two playing up front. What’s the point of bringing in another striker and only playing a lone striker up front. Ross should be blaming his own negative tactics for our lack of goals. Our defence makes one mistake and it’s game over

We have scored as many goals as Forest Green Rovers & there 2 points out of a play off place.

We need to stop conceding goals.

We haven’t scored from open play for almost 360 mins ( Sotoriou v Newport )
Even One Goal would give us a chance but negative tactics are costing us.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:56 am Which to me is yet more evidence that the money's run out...

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:49 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:18 pm

We have scored as many goals as Forest Green Rovers & there 2 points out of a play off place.

We need to stop conceding goals.

We haven’t scored from open play for almost 360 mins ( Sotoriou v Newport )
Even One Goal would give us a chance but negative tactics are costing us.

Are. goals from open play worth more than ones that arent ?

Ludicrous statement.