Ratings thread

[gshaw]

"if you can't be good be lucky"

Got away with one today. Usual poor home performance bailed out by the late penalty.

A few ratings affected by individual moments on this one

Sargeant - 6 - generally OK but in no man's land for the goal
Turley - 6 - looked his usual solid presence until injury, hope it's not a bad one
Coulson - 6 - fairly steady but not tested for pace today
Happe - 6 - as per Coulson really
Brophy - 6 - was on for a 7 at least until his mistake for their goal. Shame he has to travel 40+ yards before being able to influence the game in an attacking sense

Marsh - 5 - anonymous, a generous 5
Wright - 5 - as above with a few more noticeable moments
Kyprianou - 6 - like the look of him, physical presence and seemed at home

Wilkinson - 6 - tricky feet but wasted out wide
JMD - 7 - MOTM best attacking outlet, his crosses were begging for someone with an aerial presence to head in
Angol - 5 - general performance barely a 4, doesn't want to play as a lone striker but bonus point for an excellent penalty at the end

Subs

Judd - 6 - came in and did the job required
Clay - 7 - lively and won the pen, better playing less minutes
Harrold - 5 - not much influence, needed him on earlier to finish one of those crosses and win some of the long balls

Overall usual story at home, need 2-3 new players to change things up significantly

(Edited to add MOTM)

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

How did we look fitness wise?

Wasn't there so can't comment, but Dulcet said that Kyprianou looked out of his depth before he came off.

[EliotNes]

Reasonable assessment from gshaw. We did our best to give away 3 points

[Luna Tic]

Every match under Ross lone striker , Wilkinson a Natural centre forward on the wing . Result we go behind . Then the next tactic is always to try 3 upfront for last ten to desperately try and get a point . It’s gonna be a dull rest of season . Odd win more defeats then wins and lots of draws I’d guess . Just as it’s been as interim With these repeated tactics

[EliotNes]

It wasn’t 3 up front Angol was banished to the wing after Harold came on

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Every match under Ross lone striker , Wilkinson a Natural centre forward on the wing . Result we go behind . Then the next tactic is always to try 3 upfront for last ten to desperately try and get a point . It’s gonna be a dull rest of season . Odd win more defeats then wins and lots of draws I’d guess . Just as it’s been as interim With these repeated tactics

It's like he hasn't learned anything by playing one up top (especially at home). And even if he hasn't Ling should be mentioning it to him.

[gshaw]

How did we look fitness wise?

Wasn't there so can't comment, but Dulcet said that Kyprianou looked out of his depth before he came off.

A tad better but not up against the same quality of opposition today. Grismby more of a hit and hope merchant side rather than having players who could run with the ball and pass / move.

JMD I thought tracked back well and seemed more committed in the defensive side of the game.

Clay looked more lively playing 30 odd minutes rather than a full game. Get a quality CM in to start and let him be a good impact sub going forward.

Angol looked disinterested in playing as a lone target man, if not for the penalty (well taken) he had a really poor game.

[EliotNes]

“” Clay looked more lively playing 30 odd minutes rather than a full game. Get a quality CM in to start and let him be a good impact sub going forward.“”

Totally agree with u

[PoundhillO]

Embleton rating for tactics ?

[jamespevans]

Liked the look of the lineup when I saw it. Brophy at LB is an attacking option, Ekpiteta needed to be dropped and Soteriou is wasted when we play one up front. Clay also deserved to be dropped and Kyprianou was the obvious replacement plus the return of our best player (Wilkinson) was a bonus. Yet....... more proof that Embleton is either a bad tactician or so petrified of getting beat every week that safety first will always prevail. Like G above ratings are influenced by different parts of the game.

Sergeant - 6 - solid but not sure about his decision making for the goal. kicking needs to improve
Brophy - 6 - my MoM until the 72nd minute. His link up play with JMD was excellent and then........
Happe - 7 - did okay
Coulson - 6 - looks to either be carrying a long term injury or has aged 10 years since the end of last season.
Turley - 7 - even though he was only on for 20 minutes was marshalling the defence
JMD - 7 - we put in 39 crosses in the game, most of them from him but we failed to capitalise on them. Isn't strong enough to cover for the LB/RB behind him
Wright - 6 - anonymous
Marsh - 6 - also anonymous
Kyprianou - 7 - thought he did okay. can hold the ball up and is improving game by game
Wilkinson - 7 - returning from two recent injuries but lets make him run the length of the pitch in the RW position providing cover for Judd, tactical materclass (not). Had more influence in the second half and is a cut above this division but is being wasted when he's on the pitch at the moment
Angol - 6 - can hold the ball up but is not a lone striker. Thought he'd skyed the penalty

Judd - 7 - solid at the back and should never have been dropped
Clay - 7 - made an impact but can't be relied on this season (he was my POY last season)
Harrold - 6 - should have come on for Angol on the hour.

[Tent Keague]

I think how anyone can rate any of our players above a 6 is crazy.

We were average against a team that have nothing about them. We didn't look motivated in the slightest.

If this is the new manager bounce then I worry for what comes next.

[Walthamsto]

Turley could be a big miss. JMD had one of his better games. Angol looked like he really didn't want to be there. First half was dire, the second was better. We are desperately short of confidence and direction at the moment and the whole thing looks a bit of a struggle. I can't wait for this season to fizzle out!

[gshaw]

I think how anyone can rate any of our players above a 6 is crazy.

We were average against a team that have nothing about them. We didn't look motivated in the slightest.

If this is the new manager bounce then I worry for what comes next.

I can understand that view but individually a few did have decent games. The fact the tactics and squad aren't strong enough to capitalise on that is the issue.

As per above request for one more rating...

Embleton - 5 - made one or two decent changes to starting XI (Clay particularly) but again reactive rather than proactive during the game. Lucky to get a draw.

[spen666]

Lots of huff, but sadly not enough puff.

Plenty of good play, but lacking in front of goal.

Not sure their keeper made a save in the first half.


Orient deserved a point though.

[Red_Army]

Thought we did okay against another poor side, albeit one in form.

Clay changed the game when he came on. It was drifting towards a 0 0. We were starting to dominate the game before a shocking error from Brophy who needs to learn to use his right foot- it's not acceptable for a professional footballer to be so one footed. We did well to salvage a point in the end, Clay winning the penalty.


Sargeant - 5 - indecisive for the goal. Didn't really make it hard for Ross to bring in the new man of available.
Turley - 6 - was doing well until the injury. Hope it's not long term.
Coulson - 6 - looked like he got done for the goal but put his head on pretty much everything else.
Happe - 6 - did okay. Mixed distribution.
Brophy - 5 - was playing well until his ridiculous decision to run the ball across the halfway line. His lack of a right foot makes it difficult for him to do anything bar turn back if he cuts inside.

Marsh - 5 - battled but low on quality.
Wright - 5 - should never be allowed to take a set piece ever again, on today's evidence.
Kyprianou - 5 - not ready for first team football. Looks a prospect but added nothing to the team. We looked a much better side when Clay came on and Wright went deeper, which is not a slight on Hector, but on the decision to start a young lad.

Wilkinson - 7 - he's our best player. It's a shame he has to do all his work wide or on the halfway line
JMD - 7 - some decent crosses and generally a threat. Almost cost us the point at the end losing the ball after a corner came back to him.
Angol - 5 - battled well enough but feeding off scraps. Took the pen well.

Subs

Judd - 6 - better than recently and didn't dive in apart from his first action where he got there just in time. Didn't look our of place.
Clay - 7 - changed the game. Gave us impetus and liked the play well. Played more forward passes in the Grimsby half than the other 3 midfielders put together.
Harrold - 5 - did fine and won a couple of free kicks. Should probably have come on a bit earlier.

[Bergen]

I like Angol, but he is always behind the defender when crosses are coming in. He needs to attack the ball more. Wilkinson is much better at that and almost scored with a header. If we are going to play with one striker, it should be Conor IMO.

[gshaw]

I like Angol, but he is always behind the defender when crosses are coming in. He needs to attack the ball more. Wilkinson is much better at that and almost scored with a header. If we are going to play with one striker, it should be Conor IMO.

Agree with this although Wilkinson doesn't like the rough stuff either. Really need a strong target man to come in and pick one of Angol / Wilkinson to play alongside them with the other to be fresh legs from the bench.

That however relies on playing 4-4-2 with a strong ball-winning CM coming in. Big week of signings required. Hopefully Gorman going and with any luck Alabi following will free up some budget. Also have a suspicion Ekpiteta might be one of those departures as well.

[Nad2008]

Angol 1

[Writtlered]

Wright went missing for the whole game today, thought Judd done really well. Motm for me was Wilkinson he’s class.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

How did we look fitness wise?

Wasn't there so can't comment, but Dulcet said that Kyprianou looked out of his depth before he came off.

Dave is talking out of his arse.

I know it’s not saying much but Hector was easily the best of the 3 in there.

[essexfootball]

Sargeant - 6 - Played okay was nowhere for the goal but don't think it can be solely blamed on him
Turley - 7 - Looked a rock while on the pitch
Coulson - 5 -Looks slow and old and shouldn't playing at this level anymore
Happe - 6 - Did what he had to
Brophy - 5 - First 60 was my man of the match, next 30 on a death wish, gave away for the goal then nearly done it twice more

Marsh - 5 - Meh
Wright - 5 - Meh
Kyprianou - 6 - Mad a few mistakes but played well, good defensive coverage too, deserves to stay in for a period I think to see if he can grow

Wilkinson - 6 - Good to be back, some nice touches, some aerial threat, also not afraid to shoot, wants to score
JMD - 7 - Best player by miles, creative, nearly scored, everything went through him, teams will learn to make him
Angol - 2 - Anyone who rates him, need their head checked. He is utterly ineffective and useless, again today managed to redirect JMD shot at goal over the bar, he has had 4 good chances in the last few games, also looked pretty disinterested, needs dropping, waste of space currently

Subs

Judd - 6 - Played okay
Clay - 7 - Done well when he came on
Harrold - 5 - Hard to rate but him just being there as an actual target man makes a difference, the main striker for Orient needs to be a younger, better, Matt Harold

[Lucky7]

"if you can't be good be lucky"

Got away with one today. Usual poor home performance bailed out by the late penalty.

A few ratings affected by individual moments on this one

Sargeant - 6 - generally OK but in no man's land for the goal
Turley - 6 - looked his usual solid presence until injury, hope it's not a bad one
Coulson - 6 - fairly steady but not tested for pace today
Happe - 6 - as per Coulson really
Brophy - 6 - was on for a 7 at least until his mistake for their goal. Shame he has to travel 40+ yards before being able to influence the game in an attacking sense

Marsh - 5 - anonymous, a generous 5
Wright - 5 - as above with a few more noticeable moments
Kyprianou - 6 - like the look of him, physical presence and seemed at home

Wilkinson - 6 - tricky feet but wasted out wide
JMD - 7 - MOTM best attacking outlet, his crosses were begging for someone with an aerial presence to head in
Angol - 5 - general performance barely a 4, doesn't want to play as a lone striker but bonus point for an excellent penalty at the end

Subs

Judd - 6 - came in and did the job required
Clay - 7 - lively and won the pen, better playing less minutes
Harrold - 5 - not much influence, needed him on earlier to finish one of those crosses and win some of the long balls

Overall usual story at home, need 2-3 new players to change things up significantly

(Edited to add MOTM)

I remember you saying you have a restricted view in the East
After giving Clay a 7 I believe you
He got the penalty sure but I counted at least 4 wayward passes within 10 minutes of him coming on the worst being with Grimsby already 1 up he decided a square ball to Brophy was the best option in the penalty area and the Grimsby players swallowed it up thankfully nothing came of it
4 for getting the Penalty
3 without

You should ask the club to move you to pitchside

[RedDwarf 1881]

Thanks for the ratings gshaw. I thought Grimsby were also lucky today . If Brophy hadn’t slipped their player would have never got through to lob Sergeant.

[gshaw]

"if you can't be good be lucky"

Got away with one today. Usual poor home performance bailed out by the late penalty.

A few ratings affected by individual moments on this one

Sargeant - 6 - generally OK but in no man's land for the goal
Turley - 6 - looked his usual solid presence until injury, hope it's not a bad one
Coulson - 6 - fairly steady but not tested for pace today
Happe - 6 - as per Coulson really
Brophy - 6 - was on for a 7 at least until his mistake for their goal. Shame he has to travel 40+ yards before being able to influence the game in an attacking sense

Marsh - 5 - anonymous, a generous 5
Wright - 5 - as above with a few more noticeable moments
Kyprianou - 6 - like the look of him, physical presence and seemed at home

Wilkinson - 6 - tricky feet but wasted out wide
JMD - 7 - MOTM best attacking outlet, his crosses were begging for someone with an aerial presence to head in
Angol - 5 - general performance barely a 4, doesn't want to play as a lone striker but bonus point for an excellent penalty at the end

Subs

Judd - 6 - came in and did the job required
Clay - 7 - lively and won the pen, better playing less minutes
Harrold - 5 - not much influence, needed him on earlier to finish one of those crosses and win some of the long balls

Overall usual story at home, need 2-3 new players to change things up significantly

(Edited to add MOTM)

I remember you saying you have a restricted view in the East
After giving Clay a 7 I believe you
He got the penalty sure but I counted at least 4 wayward passes within 10 minutes of him coming on the worst being with Grimsby already 1 up he decided a square ball to Brophy was the best option in the penalty area and the Grimsby players swallowed it up thankfully nothing came of it
4 for getting the Penalty
3 without

You should ask the club to move you to pitchside

Heh the only restricted view today was for the penalty when everyone decided to stand up or walk in front of me as Angol took the run-up

I won't argue that he probably did misplace passes but for once showed energy and tried to drive us forward. Did his job at making something happen to change the game, credit where it's due.

[gshaw]

Thanks for the ratings gshaw. I thought Grimsby were also lucky today . If Brophy hadn’t slipped their player would have never got through to lob Sergeant.

Dangerous game running inside across the field like that though. That's the problem putting a winger at LB, their first natural thought is always going to be attack minded.