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Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:31 pm**

Why are so many of you expecting a first time manager to perform miracles? Much of the squad is NL standard. Klopp wouldn't have this club much higher in the table.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:31 pm Why are so many of you expecting a first time manager to perform miracles? Much of the squad is NL standard. Klopp wouldn't have this club much higher in the table.

Pep would because he’s better

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm**

So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:40 pm**

Which NL standard players has Ling given extended deals to?

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:41 pm**

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:40 pm Which NL standard players has Ling given extended deals to?

Google fella. I have better things to do.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:44 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:41 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:40 pm Which NL standard players has Ling given extended deals to?
Google fella. I have better things to do.

“Better things to do” from the guy who’s posted 6 times in 5 minutes.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.

Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:47 pm**

We shouldn't have NL players, thought there was a plan

let's face it the recruitment has been abysmal and no where near good enough.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.

The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:52 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!

Which is another way of saying we're too good to get relegated.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:54 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:52 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm

Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!
Which is another way of saying we're too good to get relegated.

I think it also suggests a major disconnect between the views of many fans and those of the HC and DoF.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:56 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:31 pm Why are so many of you expecting a first time manager to perform miracles? Much of the squad is NL standard. Klopp wouldn't have this club much higher in the table.

Forget the 1st time manager. This goes back to the error made by the owners in not appointing an experienced manager after JE died and which they continue to make.

Had JE not died he would have gutted this squad because he understood it's shortcomings which he overcame by altering the team shape.

A new experienced manager would have done the same or started the process given the transfer window limitations. He wouldn't have signed the players we have.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:57 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:54 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:52 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm

The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!
Which is another way of saying we're too good to get relegated.
I think it also suggests a major disconnect between the views of many fans and those of the HC and DoF.

It's delusional.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:08 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.

So you are agreeing with me.

Glad we have established that.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:09 pm**

kokomO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:47 pm We shouldn't have NL players, thought there was a plan let's face it the recruitment has been abysmal and no where near good enough.

MANAGER DIED. KIND OF DISRUPTED THE SUMMER RECRUITMENT

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:10 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!

Only watched ling's interview. He didn't say that. Fake news!

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:11 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:08 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
So you are agreeing with me.

Glad we have established that.

Come on, Prestige World doesn’t agree with anything!

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:11 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:09 pm
kokomO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:47 pm We shouldn't have NL players, thought there was a plan let's face it the recruitment has been abysmal and no where near good enough.
MANAGER DIED. KIND OF DISRUPTED THE SUMMER RECRUITMENT

That is why we pay a DOF.

What part of that don’t you understand?

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:11 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:56 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:31 pm Why are so many of you expecting a first time manager to perform miracles? Much of the squad is NL standard. Klopp wouldn't have this club much higher in the table.
Forget the 1st time manager. This goes back to the error made by the owners in not appointing an experienced manager after JE died and which they continue to make.

Had JE not died he would have gutted this squad because he understood it's shortcomings which he overcame by altering the team shape.

A new experienced manager would have done the same or started the process given the transfer window limitations. He wouldn't have signed the players we have.

It wasn't appropriate, can't you see that?

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:12 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:08 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
So you are agreeing with me.

Glad we have established that.

Yes but it's irrelevant. Now answer the question in the topic title.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:13 pm**

Lofctillwedie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:31 pm Why are so many of you expecting a first time manager to perform miracles? Much of the squad is NL standard. Klopp wouldn't have this club much higher in the table.
Pep would because he’s better

Yeah he did wonders with the no-hopers at Barcelona, Bayern Munich & Man City working on a shoestring budget

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:14 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 pm So why has Ling given extended deals to NL standard players?

Clueless.
Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!

Where as stone cold evidence would indicate otherwise, for the majority of games the performances have stunk the place out.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:14 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:11 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:09 pm
kokomO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:47 pm We shouldn't have NL players, thought there was a plan let's face it the recruitment has been abysmal and no where near good enough.
MANAGER DIED. KIND OF DISRUPTED THE SUMMER RECRUITMENT
That is why we pay a DOF.

What part of that don’t you understand?

It gives more stability if a manager departs, yes. A manager DYING is totally different.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:14 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:12 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:08 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm

Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
So you are agreeing with me.

Glad we have established that.
Yes but it's irrelevant. Now answer the question in the topic title.

It isn’t. The DOF is tasked with improving the squad. He sold Koroma and Bonne and didn’t adequately replace them.

THAT is relevant.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:24 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:10 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:48 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm

Yes you are.

Personally I don't agree with the length of the Coulson, clay or brill contracts, but it's happened so don't blame RE for it.
The decision to give McAnuff another 12 months has also planned out well hasn’t it? And by the way according to both Ross and ML “the current squad is much better than our league position suggests”!
Only watched ling's interview. He didn't say that. Fake news!

Ling “ we feel we’ve got a much better squad than where we are” 7:08 - maybe you would care to look again?

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