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If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:24 pm
by RientO
Coventry have a fortnight to find a ground
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/ ... y-16115090
Bolton Wanderers have stopped paying the wages
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17 ... n-pay-row/
And no clarity on what would happen. Could be an extra promotion place or possibly 23rd team would get a reprieve. If it was the former, I suspect the National League Play Off final wouldn't be needed.
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/ef ... he-league/
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:52 pm
by EliotNes
The way the EFL allowed our game with Colchester to finish, they'll probably play with one team less in a League than amend the promotion & relegation system
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:06 pm
by MalvoliO
Do love a good conspiracy theory. Do you reckon the EFL have an interest in us not getting promoted back into their league?
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:21 pm
by Bob R Smillie
MalvoliO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:06 pm
Do love a good conspiracy theory. Do you reckon the EFL have an interest in us
not getting promoted back into their league?
Of course they do. They hate interfering Americans on the make more than any others.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:35 pm
by Esteban
MalvoliO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:06 pm
Do love a good conspiracy theory. Do you reckon the EFL have an interest in us
not getting promoted back into their league?
I heard a similar conspiracy regarding the National League not wanting the Os to go up. The reason being proposed was the amount of revenue the club brings to away grounds and the attraction for TV cameras covering a relatively "big team" compared to some of the pub team dross in this god awful division.
Initially I laughed this off as nothing more than the paranoid ramblings of some random loony I'd met in the pub. But then I witnessed the shambolic officiating and blatant cheating at Bromley away and started to wonder if there was something in it....
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:02 pm
by Tent Keague
I've already asked the EFL to withdraw their offer of a league place.
It's more rewarding to win the National League fairly.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:03 pm
by Constanza
I hope no club gets thrown out due to mad owners.
Apart from West Ham of course.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:23 pm
by spen666
Clubs are reprieved rather than extra clubs promoted
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:03 pm
by RientO
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:23 pm
Clubs are reprieved rather than extra clubs promoted
Been almost 100 years since a club was last expelled. And nothing in the rules. I suspect it would be more likely the 23rd and 24th clubs in League Two keep their place. However wouldn't surprise me if EFL looked at the clubs involved before deciding. May prefer Wrexham to Crawley or Notts County to Solihull.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:18 pm
by spen666
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:03 pm
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:23 pm
Clubs are reprieved rather than extra clubs promoted
Been almost 100 years since a club was last expelled. And nothing in the rules. I suspect it would be more likely the 23rd and 24th clubs in League Two keep their place. However wouldn't surprise me if EFL looked at the clubs involved before deciding. May prefer Wrexham to Crawley or Notts County to Solihull.
There is lots of precedence. Its happened many times in non League football. Clubs going bankrupt or folding etc
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:14 pm
by RientO
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:18 pm
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:03 pm
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:23 pm
Clubs are reprieved rather than extra clubs promoted
Been almost 100 years since a club was last expelled. And nothing in the rules. I suspect it would be more likely the 23rd and 24th clubs in League Two keep their place. However wouldn't surprise me if EFL looked at the clubs involved before deciding. May prefer Wrexham to Crawley or Notts County to Solihull.
There is lots of precedence. Its happened many times in non League football. Clubs going bankrupt or folding etc
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistic ... ticle.html
Port Vale, who narrowly missed out on a League place at the most recent League election meeting - were uniquely invited to take over the fixtures of Leeds City and have been a member of the Football League ever since
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:20 pm
by spen666
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:14 pm
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:18 pm
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:03 pm
Been almost 100 years since a club was last expelled. And nothing in the rules. I suspect it would be more likely the 23rd and 24th clubs in League Two keep their place. However wouldn't surprise me if EFL looked at the clubs involved before deciding. May prefer Wrexham to Crawley or Notts County to Solihull.
There is lots of precedence. Its happened many times in non League football. Clubs going bankrupt or folding etc
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistic ... ticle.html
Port Vale, who narrowly missed out on a League place at the most recent League election meeting - were uniquely invited to take over the fixtures of Leeds City and have been a member of the Football League ever since
I think the more recent situation of clubs folding is more of a precedent than something 100 years ago when the structure of football was very different
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:40 pm
by RientO
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:20 pm
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:14 pm
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:18 pm
There is lots of precedence. Its happened many times in non League football. Clubs going bankrupt or folding etc
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistic ... ticle.html
Port Vale, who narrowly missed out on a League place at the most recent League election meeting - were uniquely invited to take over the fixtures of Leeds City and have been a member of the Football League ever since
I think the more recent situation of clubs folding is more of a precedent than something 100 years ago when the structure of football was very different
When was the last time a club was expelled and what happened?
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:45 pm
by spen666
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:40 pm
spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:20 pm
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:14 pm
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistic ... ticle.html
Port Vale, who narrowly missed out on a League place at the most recent League election meeting - were uniquely invited to take over the fixtures of Leeds City and have been a member of the Football League ever since
I think the more recent situation of clubs folding is more of a precedent than something 100 years ago when the structure of football was very different
When was the last time a club was expelled and what happened?
Expelled is irrelevant... its the fact that a division is left with one club short that is the issue. It matters not whether club are expelled, made bankrupt, resign or otherwise no longer are in the division that matters.
There are not separate rules for replacing a club if it was expelled compared to the other ways it ceases to be in the division.
You are getting fixated with the word expelled . The issue is what happens when a club ceases to be a member of a division or league
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 pm
by StillSpike
I'm pretty certain that when Rangers bit the big one, an extra club (Dundee) was promoted from the Championship - if that helps. (2012)
The Townie bastards were hoping for a reprieve, but were told to stick it and the Dens Park guys got invited up.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:01 pm
by StillSpike
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:06 pm
by Max B Gold
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 pm
I'm pretty certain that when Rangers bit the big one, an extra club (Dundee) was promoted from the Championship - if that helps. (2012)
The Townie b*stard were hoping for a reprieve, but were told to stick it and the Dens Park guys got invited up.
Around the time Club 12 were promoted I recall a brand new club called Sevco Scotland Ltd were admitted to the old Div 3 to fill the gap.
This was despite the agreement allowing this fiddle to take place actually refering to a club called Sevco 588 Ltd. Strange times.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:10 pm
by MexicO
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:06 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 pm
I'm pretty certain that when Rangers bit the big one, an extra club (Dundee) was promoted from the Championship - if that helps. (2012)
The Townie b*stard were hoping for a reprieve, but were told to stick it and the Dens Park guys got invited up.
Around the time Club 12 were promoted I recall a brand new club called Sevco Scotland Ltd were admitted to the old Div 3 to fill the gap.
This was despite the agreement allowing this fiddle to take place actually refers to a club called Sevco 588 Ltd. Strange times.
Post of the mia
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:18 pm
by StillSpike
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:06 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 pm
I'm pretty certain that when Rangers bit the big one, an extra club (Dundee) was promoted from the Championship - if that helps. (2012)
The Townie b*stard were hoping for a reprieve, but were told to stick it and the Dens Park guys got invited up.
Around the time Club 12 were promoted I recall a brand new club called Sevco Scotland Ltd were admitted to the old Div 3 to fill the gap.
This was despite the agreement allowing this fiddle to take place actually refers to a club called Sevco 588 Ltd. Strange times.
Yes - having done a bit more research, it looks like the "gaps" created in each division by the liquidation were filled by extra promotions from the division below **
What say you now, Spenny?
** Of course, having droned on about "Sporting Integrity" in booting out the Rangers, the SPL Chairmen actually meant for them to be re-admitted in League 1 (as it was called then - I mistakenly called it the Champtionship earlier). It seems that they were all for Sporting Integrity, but they didn't want to have to do without the money for 3 or 4 seasons and rather hoped that the Ibrox team would be welcomed into Tier 2 with open arms. They got the bums rush on that one.
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:24 pm
by Max B Gold
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:18 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:06 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 pm
I'm pretty certain that when Rangers bit the big one, an extra club (Dundee) was promoted from the Championship - if that helps. (2012)
The Townie b*stard were hoping for a reprieve, but were told to stick it and the Dens Park guys got invited up.
Around the time Club 12 were promoted I recall a brand new club called Sevco Scotland Ltd were admitted to the old Div 3 to fill the gap.
This was despite the agreement allowing this fiddle to take place actually refers to a club called Sevco 588 Ltd. Strange times.
Yes - having done a bit more research, it looks like the "gaps" created in each division by the liquidation were filled by extra promotions from the division below **
What say you now, Spenny?
** Of course, having droned on about "Sporting Integrity" in booting out the Rangers, the SPL Chairmen actually meant for them to be re-admitted in League 1 (as it was called then - I mistakenly called it the Champtionship earlier). It seems that they were all for Sporting Integrity, but they didn't want to have to do without the money for 3 or 4 seasons and rather hoped that the Ibrox team would be welcomed into Tier 2 with open arms. They got the bums rush on that one.
In what way can a brand new club be "re-admitted".
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:25 pm
by StillSpike
Apols - substitute the word "parachuted into"
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:45 pm
by spen666
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:18 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:06 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:51 pm
I'm pretty certain that when Rangers bit the big one, an extra club (Dundee) was promoted from the Championship - if that helps. (2012)
The Townie b*stard were hoping for a reprieve, but were told to stick it and the Dens Park guys got invited up.
Around the time Club 12 were promoted I recall a brand new club called Sevco Scotland Ltd were admitted to the old Div 3 to fill the gap.
This was despite the agreement allowing this fiddle to take place actually refers to a club called Sevco 588 Ltd. Strange times.
Yes - having done a bit more research, it looks like the "gaps" created in each division by the liquidation were filled by extra promotions from the division below **
What say you now, Spenny?
*.....
What say I?
WTF is the relevance of what a different country under a different DA with different rules did?
You might as well quote from the rules of Quidditch from Harry Potter
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:34 am
by StillSpike
Re: If a club gets expelled from EFL - what could happen?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:01 am
by Proposition Joe
Relentless.
Have to say though, in NL circles at least, the tendency tends to be to just spare a team from relegation rather than promote an extra one.
