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In private he speaks the truth in public he tells lies. The man has two faces. He has now pulled out of a radio 5 live interview, not going well today for ashworth os it?

Ashworth has got done by a Tory “mate” there. But I wouldn’t be trusting or promoting anything put out by the vile Guido Fawkes and more than I would anti-Tory stuff by The Canary.

What is this 'story' about?

It’s on the Grauniad’s live feed today.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... rimes-live

Redo just press play and you were hear what ashworth has to say about labour, Corbyn etc.

slacker wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:10 pm It’s on the Grauniad’s live feed today.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... rimes-live

What an idiot.

I'm not as offended by his stupidity or his opinions of Corbyn as I am the flagrant dishonesty that this highlights. I hope as he's sitting in his campaign office, with his head in his hands realising what an arrogant moron he is he reflects on what this tells the general public about our political class. It tells us that they are practised liars. Lying is second nature to them. Not one of them believes in their principles enough to give it to you straight. They all think we're morons who can't handle the truth. If you hate Corbyn, fine. Put that on record and let's move on. There are plenty of Tories who despise Johnson. That's also fine. What is unforgivable is lying about it. I cannot stand mainstream politics. It sickens me to my core.

Jut reminded me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Ashworth

plenty of outrage from people who would be equally - if not more - outraged had he expressed those same views publicly.

Likewise, everyone is entitled to their viewpoint, fair enough. It’s the lying , and squirming that I don’t like.
He has been caught out, but suggesting it was a wind up is taking the piss out of us, much like corbyn saying he didn’t realize that mural , or the book he appraised was antisemetic, or he didn’t know he was actually laying a wreath at the grave of a Jew killing terrorist. Nail your colors to the mast , I might despise you for those beliefs but I will respect your honesty.

Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm Likewise, everyone is entitled to their viewpoint, fair enough. It’s the lying , and squirming that I don’t like.
He has been caught out, but suggesting it was a wind up is taking the p*ss out of us, much like corbyn saying he didn’t realize that mural , or the book he appraised was antisemetic, or he didn’t know he was actually laying a wreath at the grave of a Jew killing terrorist. Nail your colors to the mast , I might despise you for those beliefs but I will respect your honesty.

Like the ‘honesty’ shown by serial liar Johnson?

Don’t make me laugh.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:40 pm

Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm Likewise, everyone is entitled to their viewpoint, fair enough. It’s the lying , and squirming that I don’t like.
He has been caught out, but suggesting it was a wind up is taking the p*ss out of us, much like corbyn saying he didn’t realize that mural , or the book he appraised was antisemetic, or he didn’t know he was actually laying a wreath at the grave of a Jew killing terrorist. Nail your colors to the mast , I might despise you for those beliefs but I will respect your honesty.

Like the ‘honesty’ shown by serial liar Johnson?

Don’t make me laugh.

Careful theres a bloke on a bike getting punched!!

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:40 pm

Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm Likewise, everyone is entitled to their viewpoint, fair enough. It’s the lying , and squirming that I don’t like.
He has been caught out, but suggesting it was a wind up is taking the p*ss out of us, much like corbyn saying he didn’t realize that mural , or the book he appraised was antisemetic, or he didn’t know he was actually laying a wreath at the grave of a Jew killing terrorist. Nail your colors to the mast , I might despise you for those beliefs but I will respect your honesty.

Like the ‘honesty’ shown by serial liar Johnson?

Don’t make me laugh.

Careful theres a bloke on a bike getting punched!!

Johnson should be pinched, not punched.

Unfortunately, the guy is Teflon coated like Trump.

Well as long as he gets remain light done ( brexit means brexit , but not nigels version )
He'll be lauded .

Not by me i hasten to add.