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Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:28 am

Another debate dodged by bottler Boris.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:26 am Johnson is in my opinion a coward who either won’t allow himself to stand up to scrutiny or his party are so worried about him making more f*ck ups that they have told him not to do in depth interviews.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:51 am

Luckily they have his old dad on (presumably to try to avoid f*** up)

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:43 am

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:26 am Johnson is in my opinion a coward who either won’t allow himself to stand up to scrutiny or his party are so worried about him making more f*ck ups that they have told him not to do in depth interviews.

Alternatively, he is a leader of sound judgement who avoids putting himself at unnecessary risk because he knows he can get his message across in different ways.

Lets see whether the public share your view or not.

The verdict will be announced early on December 13th

Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:55 am The working class are thick. We all know that. Not thick enough to vote for Corbyn though. Working class still aspire to make something of their lives and they don’t need some doddery old grandad telling them the only real success in life is to all be equally miserable.

greyhound wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:03 pm he is not so stupid to go on debates
and make a right p...k of himself like Corbyn the .

Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:43 am

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:26 am Johnson is in my opinion a coward who either won’t allow himself to stand up to scrutiny or his party are so worried about him making more f*ck ups that they have told him not to do in depth interviews.

Alternatively, he is a leader of sound judgement who avoids putting himself at unnecessary risk because he knows he can get his message across in different ways.

Lets see whether the public share your view or not.

The verdict will be announced early on December 13th

There was a time when I used to look at your posts and think that you were maybe trying to provoke some thought or debate.

However, like Maffy, I've now reached the conclusion that you're an idiot. If you can associate the words "sound judgement" with Boris Johnson then I can only treat you as a complete half-wit who is going to end up with the government you deserve.

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:18 pm

Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:43 am

Alternatively, he is a leader of sound judgement who avoids putting himself at unnecessary risk because he knows he can get his message across in different ways.

Lets see whether the public share your view or not.

The verdict will be announced early on December 13th

There was a time when I used to look at your posts and think that you were maybe trying to provoke some thought or debate.

However, like Maffy, I've now reached the conclusion that you're an idiot. If you can associate the words "sound judgement" with Boris Johnson then I can only treat you as a complete half-wit who is going to end up with the government you deserve.

Sadly it appears you want to sink to personal insults.



JC & BJ are involved in a competition where the aim is to win the election. They have adopted different strategies to getting their maessages out.

If not appearing in TV debates to avoid car crash moments and using other methods to get your message across is successful, then I would call that sound judgement.

I would not call it sound judgement to choose to go onto TV and have a car crash interview that harms your chances of being elected.



You appear to be collating what you want to happen with what is sound judgement.

Its quite clear you want BJ to appear on TV in debates / interviews. That is fine and you are entitled to hold that view.

However, the competition is not to do what you want but to win the election. Choosing a strategy that wins the election is adopting sound judgement. Choosing a strategy that loses you an election is not sound judgement.


Unless, I am wrong and the aim is not to win the election

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:43 am

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:26 am Johnson is in my opinion a coward who either won’t allow himself to stand up to scrutiny or his party are so worried about him making more f*ck ups that they have told him not to do in depth interviews.

Alternatively, he is a leader of sound judgement who avoids putting himself at unnecessary risk because he knows he can get his message across in different ways.

Lets see whether the public share your view or not.

The verdict will be announced early on December 13th

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:18 pm Choosing a strategy that wins the election is adopting sound judgement.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:29 pm Thanks for explaining why he's avoiding interviews, but we already know why. We'd just like him to be exposed for what he really is. For people to know the truth and what they're voting for. Would've thought a man in your profession would be in favour of that.

Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:00 pm

Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:55 am The working class are thick. We all know that. Not thick enough to vote for Corbyn though. Working class still aspire to make something of their lives and they don’t need some doddery old grandad telling them the only real success in life is to all be equally miserable.

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political power to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics" Bevan.

And here comes Beradogs - doing his best to make sure that conservative politics continue.
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How dare you. I am certainly not a conservative. I will be voting greens who do not fit my libertarian views generally except in regards to the environment. It’s destruction has been state led and if we have no planet all other views are somewhat irrelevant.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:38 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:43 am

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:26 am Johnson is in my opinion a coward who either won’t allow himself to stand up to scrutiny or his party are so worried about him making more f*ck ups that they have told him not to do in depth interviews.

Alternatively, he is a leader of sound judgement who avoids putting himself at unnecessary risk because he knows he can get his message across in different ways.

Lets see whether the public share your view or not.

The verdict will be announced early on December 13th

Another opinion which flies in the face of the evidence. How many times in your career as a lawyer have you been laughed out of court?