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Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm
by Thor
It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:41 pm
by point nine one eight
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
How on earth would that vehicle get an MOT stiff ticket let alone insurance

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:44 pm
by Stowaway
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
That’s not only outrageous, that’s physically impossible. Do you really believe that?!

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:52 pm
by Father Ted Crilly
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm .....was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
Sounds like total ballbags to me. As someone who used to deal with ringers / cut and shuts, this is not possible.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:54 pm
by Thor
point nine one eight wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:41 pm
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
How on earth would that vehicle get an MOT stiff ticket let alone insurance
There are alot of bent testers out there. I'll give you another example.

A man brought in an e class Mercedes and it failed the tfl test when it returned the odometer had not increased 1 mile and the mot showing it had passed had an mileage of 45,000 when the real mileage was 95,000. It's a proper scandal out there at present. It was failed again and reported.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:55 pm
by Thor
Father Ted Crilly wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:52 pm
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm .....was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
Sounds like total ballbags to me. As someone who used to deal with ringers / cut and shuts, this is not possible.
All I'm repeating is what the tester was telling my mate, as last week there were loads of people with measuring equipment etc around the car. This is what he said, I kid you not.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:28 pm
by Lucky7
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
Lol he gets about does Tory Thory😂😂

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:36 pm
by Sid Bishop
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
I would have to believe that to see it to believe it.
Any road vehicle with one side one foot longer than the other would be a dead giveaway and would be near impossible to steer round a bend.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:30 pm
by spen666
I am interested in how TfL came up with their 14,000 journeys figures

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:37 pm
by Long slender neck
Maths?

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:38 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
A foot longer! That’s stretching it just a bit too much.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:39 pm
by spen666
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:37 pm Maths?
Yeah, but how did they get the data to come to this figure.

Its not something you would expect to find recorded anywhere

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:45 pm
by Long slender neck
Of course its recorded, the whole Uber system is electronic.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:57 pm
by Max B Gold
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:45 pm Of course its recorded, the whole Uber system is electronic.
Correct.

When I put my car in for its taxi test I try to make sure Willie the b*stard isn't on that day. He once failed me because the indicator bulb wasn't orange enough. Bigot.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:02 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:45 pm Of course its recorded, the whole Uber system is electronic.
Given their systems are automated and assuming the data logged is accurate, and without knowing the details of their database, this statistic should be very easy to prove or disprove. If it cannot be proven then Uber are innocent until proven guilty.

Are we to assume TfL got full access to their database and had the opportunity to develop programmes to establish this number. Or is it just an estimate based on a small sample that were reviewed. I suspect the latter.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:51 pm
by Disoriented
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
Has your friend been on the sauce?

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:03 pm
by Thor
dOh Nut wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:02 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:45 pm Of course its recorded, the whole Uber system is electronic.
Given their systems are automated and assuming the data logged is accurate, and without knowing the details of their database, this statistic should be very easy to prove or disprove. If it cannot be proven then Uber are innocent until proven guilty.

Are we to assume TfL got full access to their database and had the opportunity to develop programmes to establish this number. Or is it just an estimate based on a small sample that were reviewed. I suspect the latter.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
Doh tfl found people had no insurance, no Uber licence or whatever it is they need to register with tfl, convicted people driving, no actual driving licence. It’s absolute madness that it’s been allowed to happen.

What’s good though is tfl is cracking down on them.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:14 pm
by Adz
We all know how it ends. Uber chuck a wad of cash at someone higher up and the problems all go away.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:21 pm
by Thor
Hope not.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:10 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:03 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:02 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:45 pm Of course its recorded, the whole Uber system is electronic.
Given their systems are automated and assuming the data logged is accurate, and without knowing the details of their database, this statistic should be very easy to prove or disprove. If it cannot be proven then Uber are innocent until proven guilty.

Are we to assume TfL got full access to their database and had the opportunity to develop programmes to establish this number. Or is it just an estimate based on a small sample that were reviewed. I suspect the latter.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
Doh tfl found people had no insurance, no Uber licence or whatever it is they need to register with tfl, convicted people driving, no actual driving licence. It’s absolute madness that it’s been allowed to happen.

What’s good though is tfl is cracking down on them.
Don’t disagree. As far as I’m concerned the authorities should clamp down hard on anybody driving an unsafe vehicle full stop. Add to that untaxed and uninsured. It’s not only passengers that get killed. Not questioning this, just interested in where the numbers come from.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:23 am
by BiggsyMalone
The sooner black cabs are off our roads the better.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:52 am
by StockholmO
Good decision TfL. If this saves one woman from being murdered or raped by an Uber driver then it would have been worth it.

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:41 am
by point nine one eight
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:54 pm
point nine one eight wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:41 pm
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm It's being reported that TFL have withdrawn the licence for uber to operate in london. It was found that 14,000 journeys were made with a driver not who the passenger expected it to be. Invalid insurance was also a concern.

I was at a black taxi testing centre last week with a friend who runs his own black taxi rental company and the tester was speaking to him and told him that an uber that was being checked last week when he was there by TFL people was a car made up of three different sections. The right hand side of the car was actually a foot longer than the left hand side. That is outrageous.
How on earth would that vehicle get an MOT stiff ticket let alone insurance
There are alot of bent testers out there. I'll give you another example.

A man brought in an e class Mercedes and it failed the tfl test when it returned the odometer had not increased 1 mile and the mot showing it had passed had an mileage of 45,000 when the real mileage was 95,000. It's a proper scandal out there at present. It was failed again and reported.
My Licencing Authority will only accept MOT's provided by one MOT Garage, results are Emailed to council same day All details of vehicle are known to Licencing authority, Includes MOT's, Insurance, Car tax, Milage, Body repairs, Tires, Driver Details, Police criminal checks, including photo ID, photo taken by council. How can Uber get away with doing jack sh*t

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:42 am
by point nine one eight
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:23 am The sooner black cabs are off our roads the better.
You want a response well here it is silly sausage

Re: Uber Stripped of its License

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:02 am
by Fellowo
The decision is just to steer the flack from the black cabbies away from Tfl and towards the legal system.

Even if Uber do lose their licence, there are numerous other similar app based companies that will simply take on the drivers, with the downside being that I fully suspect that these other companies haven't the same checks that Uber have imposed (even though I agree that Ubers checks are not as stringent as they should).