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New Manager needed urgently

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Travis, Teague and Ling admit making mistakes, they clearly have not learnt anything.
Embleton is way out of his depth, advertise immediately if you haven't done already for a proven experienced Manager at this level.
This is not the way to keep fans onside and certainly won't attract new fans, the attendances will tumble and so will the goodwill .
No more cheap, useless solutions it is an insult to Justin's memory and all the loyal fan base.
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What’s more we are likely to get relegated. I’m sure that’s not in the 5 year plan!
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PoundhillO wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:10 pm Travis, Teague and Ling admit making mistakes, they clearly have not learnt anything.
Embleton is way out of his depth, advertise immediately if you haven't done already for a proven experienced Manager at this level.
This is not the way to keep fans onside and certainly won't attract new fans, the attendances will tumble and so will the goodwill .
No more cheap, useless solutions it is an insult to Justin's memory and all the loyal fan base.
Hear hear, totally 100% agree with this. People won't put up with this cack being served up.
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It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
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Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
Sorry, it’s the manager, coaching staff and DOF!
They need to be cleared out.
The players do have the ability
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Its a manager and the tactices angol in mid better in attack 442
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cockhat wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:21 pm
Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
Sorry, it’s the manager, coaching staff and DOF!
They need to be cleared out.
The players do have the ability
Well the last manager told the board that the players weren’t up to it and they didn’t want to hear it, so they sacked him by mutual consent, as if were.
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Stowaway wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:05 pm
cockhat wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:21 pm
Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
Sorry, it’s the manager, coaching staff and DOF!
They need to be cleared out.
The players do have the ability
Well the last manager told the board that the players weren’t up to it and they didn’t want to hear it, so they sacked him by mutual consent, as if were.
You don’t SACK someone by mutual consent.
Get a proper experienced manager to organise them and they’ll come good!
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For all the huff and puff we do look lost . We do need a fresh impetus and new direction , which we should’ve had five weeks ago, but for an awful appointment . We are slipping down and down the league .
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The coaches were poor under Davis
The coaches were good under Justin
The coaches were poor on their own
The coaches were poor under Fletch
The coaches are poor on their own

Ling has to go and the coaches have only proven good under a proper manager. You either have to find a proper man manager with good leadership skills and then direct the coaches to coach or you start again.

The players are good enough.

Ling we lost today cos you let Adam's go. You made a poor decision in employing Davis, you redeemed yourself by employing Justin and you've made another poor decision in employing Fletch. Your performance in the q and a was embarrassing.

Yet I still support you.

You now need to get your finger in gear and hire a manager or the club need to remove you from your position. You can take your son with you if that happens. Giving him a new contract was nepotism of the highest order especially when he didn't deserve it.
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Thing is the senior management have made a rod for their own back now having shown the coaching staff and senior players are basically untouchable. A new manager has to basically come in and work with the same players and same staff... hiding to nothing.

Reality is for whatever reason the previous recipe for success is going to need to be ripped up and started again from scratch for this level. That includes the DoF and coaching staff.
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I don’t support him and never have.
But we urgently need a proper manager.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:32 pm Thing is the senior management have made a rod for their own back now having shown the coaching staff and senior players are basically untouchable. A new manager has to basically come in and work with the same players and same staff... hiding to nothing.

Reality is for whatever reason the previous recipe for success is going to need to be ripped up and started again from scratch for this level. That includes the DoF and coaching staff.
I think you are right
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Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
What we need is a manager. not another Head Coach. Someone who is allowed to bring in his own number two and given the backing of the DOF and the board and not scapegoated like Fletcher when the 'Establishment' didn't like his way of moving forward.
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LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:53 pm :?
Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
What we need is a manager. not another Head Coach. Someone who is allowed to bring in his own number two and given the backing of the DOF and the board and not scapegoated like Fletcher when the 'Establishment' didn't like his way of moving forward.
It needs starting again. I'd say we're in such a state right now it needs Travis to appoint someone to cover his business interests and come back to run the club day-to-day and steady the ship. Put Ling on temporary leave and then get a Slade-esque manager in to report directly to Travis.

If it comes to it offer other roles to Embleton and Webb within the club if said new manager wants their own staff. Tough decisions need making and they won't be popular with some but the performances leave little choice.
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I've been a big fan of a lot of things T & T have done.And although I believe the DOF requirement is now redundant,I realise that,due to the mess we were in,it was necessary when they took control.But....
The responsibility for this shambles is theirs.
Fair play, they stood up re the Fletcher debacle,but the current situation is equally untenable.
As it seems to be common knowledge here,I imagine the conditions that CF accepted,and the subsequent situation he found himself in with our established coaching staff,are also common knowledge amongst the kind of people we should be looking to attract to the club.Good candidates will now think twice.
While it's true that there are guys out there who will say yes to the board's demands and then hope for the best.
That is not the kind of person we need now.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:00 pm
LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:53 pm :?
Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
What we need is a manager. not another Head Coach. Someone who is allowed to bring in his own number two and given the backing of the DOF and the board and not scapegoated like Fletcher when the 'Establishment' didn't like his way of moving forward.
It needs starting again. I'd say we're in such a state right now it needs Travis to appoint someone to cover his business interests and come back to run the club day-to-day and steady the ship. Put Ling on temporary leave and then get a Slade-esque manager in to report directly to Travis.

If it comes to it offer other roles to Embleton and Webb within the club if said new manager wants their own staff. Tough decisions need making and they won't be popular with some but the performances leave little choice.
Totally agree.
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The owners have got to swallow their pride, and admit they got the management structure wrong. Do away with the Dof, and move Ling into some lesser capacity role, if need be.
We need the field open for our next manager selection, with no stumbling blocks, which of course would mean him bringing in his own team.
Come on T&T you know it's the ONLY course to take.
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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:46 pm The owners have got to swallow their pride, and admit they got the management structure wrong. Do away with the Dof, and move Ling into some lesser capacity role, if need be.
We need the field open for our next manager selection, with no stumbling blocks, which of course would mean him bringing in his own team.
Come on T&T you know it's the ONLY course to take.
You would think with their business acumen it was a no brainer, however not all clever business men are blessed with common sense, let’s hope T&T have it.
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Even if the club was to bring back my choice of new manager, Russell Slade, the club have to accept changes need to be made in the January transfer window . If they can't and want to keep the status quo then we're in deep trouble .
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PoundhillO wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:10 pm Travis, Teague and Ling admit making mistakes, they clearly have not learnt anything.
Embleton is way out of his depth, advertise immediately if you haven't done already for a proven experienced Manager at this level.
This is not the way to keep fans onside and certainly won't attract new fans, the attendances will tumble and so will the goodwill .
No more cheap, useless solutions it is an insult to Justin's memory and all the loyal fan base.
Don't bother advertising . We should do what a lot of clubs do and choose who we want than go out and try and get them . As for being already contracted to other clubs , well Carl Fletcher was so what's the differnce ?
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cockhat wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:12 pm What’s more we are likely to get relegated. I’m sure that’s not in the 5 year plan!
Well, we currently keep losing all the time so surely relegation is on the cards . We're not even drawing now and that's a worry.
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Frogger wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm It’s not the manager it’s the squad it is not up to the level of skill required to survive in this league.
Agreed and that's why I've said some tough decisions will have to be made in January , no matter who our manager is . Certain players need to leave so better replacements can be brought in .
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Thor wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:28 pm The coaches were poor under Davis
The coaches were good under Justin
The coaches were poor on their own
The coaches were poor under Fletch
The coaches are poor on their own

Ling has to go and the coaches have only proven good under a proper manager. You either have to find a proper man manager with good leadership skills and then direct the coaches to coach or you start again.

The players are good enough.

Ling we lost today cos you let Adam's go. You made a poor decision in employing Davis, you redeemed yourself by employing Justin and you've made another poor decision in employing Fletch. Your performance in the q and a was embarrassing.

Yet I still support you.

You now need to get your finger in gear and hire a manager or the club need to remove you from your position. You can take your son with you if that happens. Giving him a new contract was nepotism of the highest order especially when he didn't deserve it.
Neither Martin or Sam needs to leave . What we do need however is a proven experienced manager to come in . The club also has to accept some tough decisions need to be made or it's back to the National League for us . We can't keep losing all the bloody time and expect to survive in this league .
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I guess we can keep hoping that there is at least one team worse than ourselves in this Division or recognise that the existing state of affairs isn’t working effectively and needs to be addressed.
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