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Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:47 pm
by Sid Bishop
How dare he, who does he think he is !!

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:50 pm
by slacker
Filmed in central Seville, Spain that. Can’t be many times O’Toole ordered just a lemonade in real life...

Any particular reason for posting this up, Sid?

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:57 pm
by i8ubutler
Peter O'Toole played for Galway at cricket fact fans.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:15 pm
by Chief crazy horse
slacker wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:50 pm Filmed in central Seville, Spain that. Can’t be many times O’Toole ordered just a lemonade in real life...

Any particular reason for posting this up, Sid?
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Great film though Sid, wasn't it.. But yes, why did you post it? 😊

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:11 am
by Sid Bishop
Chief crazy horse wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:15 pm
slacker wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:50 pm Filmed in central Seville, Spain that. Can’t be many times O’Toole ordered just a lemonade in real life...

Any particular reason for posting this up, Sid?
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Great film though Sid, wasn't it.. But yes, why did you post it? 😊
I suppose partly because it is that time of the year that the great wars come to mind and this film was just one that I came across whilst on YouTube and I thought that some may enjoy this scene. I saw the this film years ago, but some parts like this one did not sink in at the time of first watching the film like they do now, e.g The great Lawrence of Arabia treated so badly and the NAME ( wont say it on here) that the officers called his companion ! Lawrence's advice and promises to the Arabs who helped remove the Turkish army from their lands, were betrayed by the major powers and look what trouble has ensued since because of the French and British governments ( with the backing of America ) splitting up and creating artificial countries in the middle east ( much of it done to gain control of the Oil fields ) and also evicting the Palestinians from their lands to create Israel.

Originally I was looking at this video below from the Black comedy film ''Oh what a lovely War'' another film that I did not really understand when I saw it as a young person, then up popped the Lawrence of Arabia film.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:32 am
by Sid Bishop
slacker wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:50 pm Filmed in central Seville, Spain that. Can’t be many times O’Toole ordered just a lemonade in real life...

Any particular reason for posting this up, Sid?
Thanks for your replay, as to why did I post this video, please see above post to @Chief crazy horse.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:39 am
by Howling Mad Murdock
Some films I have never seen and this one is one of them.No particular reason for this.

Looks a great well acted scene.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:51 am
by Sid Bishop
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:39 am Some films I have never seen and this one is one of them.No particular reason for this.
If you are into history as I am, a very interesting film to watch which has amazing scenes and wonderful actors, all in all, well worth a watch !! Lawrence of Arabia was a real person and the events of those times and the actions taken by the major powers ( who failed to listen to the advice of Lawrence and also failed to honour the promises given by Lawrence to the Arab fighters on behalf of the British government ) helped to create the mess that has been going on in the Middle East for many years now.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:12 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
Well I knew he was a real person (I think).I did flunk at history at school,though. :oops:

Reminds me of walking in the Birkbeck for the first time or the Fratton messroom with my guard.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:23 pm
by Sid Bishop
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:12 pm Well I knew he was a real person (I think).I did flunk at history at school,though. :oops:

Reminds me of walking in the Birkbeck for the first time or the Fratton messroom with my guard.
Lawrence of Arabia 1888-1935
British scholar, writer and soldier who mobilised the Arab Revolt in WW1
A trained archaeologist with deep sympathies for the Arab people, Lawrence became an adviser to the Arabs and led small but effective irregular force against Turkey, attacking communication and supply routes
Sensationalised accounts of Lawrence's war exploits made him famous, but he spent the rest of his life trying to escape his own celebrity
His memoir, Seven Pillars of Wisdom, formed the basis of David Lean's 1962 film Lawrence of Arabia, starring Peter O'Toole.
Lawrence died after head injuries received in a road accident whilst riding his motor bike. In those days, motor bike helmets were not worn, in fact they had not even been invented. If Lawrence had been wearing a protective helmet, from all accounts he would not have died.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:40 pm
by Max B Gold
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:23 pm
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:12 pm Well I knew he was a real person (I think).I did flunk at history at school,though. :oops:

Reminds me of walking in the Birkbeck for the first time or the Fratton messroom with my guard.
Lawrence of Arabia 1888-1935
British scholar, writer and soldier who mobilised the Arab Revolt in WW1
A trained archaeologist with deep sympathies for the Arab people, Lawrence became an adviser to the Arabs and led small but effective irregular force against Turkey, attacking communication and supply routes
Sensationalised accounts of Lawrence's war exploits made him famous, but he spent the rest of his life trying to escape his own celebrity
His memoir, Seven Pillars of Wisdom, formed the basis of David Lean's 1962 film Lawrence of Arabia, starring Peter O'Toole.
Lawrence died after head injuries received in a road accident whilst riding his motor bike. In those days, motor bike helmets were not worn, in fact they had not even been invented. If Lawrence had been wearing a protective helmet, from all accounts he would not have died.
Yeah but he would be dead now.

Interesting how there has been no analysis of the class position of the officers and their attitudes which i believe Lean was being critical off.

Leans best picture was of course Dr Zhivago.



Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:59 pm
by Chief crazy horse
The film has one of the most iconic scenes of all time, when Lawrence first encounters Omar Sharif in the desert. You see him riding towards Lawrence on his camel in the shimmering heat of the desert as he draws closer and closer. Brilliant film considering it's nearly 60 years old. My tip would be to see it on the big screen - if you can - rather than on TV.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:01 pm
by Sid Bishop
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:40 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:23 pm
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:12 pm Well I knew he was a real person (I think).I did flunk at history at school,though. :oops:

Reminds me of walking in the Birkbeck for the first time or the Fratton messroom with my guard.
Lawrence of Arabia 1888-1935
British scholar, writer and soldier who mobilised the Arab Revolt in WW1
A trained archaeologist with deep sympathies for the Arab people, Lawrence became an adviser to the Arabs and led small but effective irregular force against Turkey, attacking communication and supply routes
Sensationalised accounts of Lawrence's war exploits made him famous, but he spent the rest of his life trying to escape his own celebrity
His memoir, Seven Pillars of Wisdom, formed the basis of David Lean's 1962 film Lawrence of Arabia, starring Peter O'Toole.
Lawrence died after head injuries received in a road accident whilst riding his motor bike. In those days, motor bike helmets were not worn, in fact they had not even been invented. If Lawrence had been wearing a protective helmet, from all accounts he would not have died.
Yeah but he would be dead now.

Interesting how there has been no analysis of the class position of the officers and their attitudes which i believe Lean was being critical off.

Leans best picture was of course Dr Zhivago.


Yes that was also a great film although for me at the time of first seeing it, I found it rather long winded.
Of course it would be of great interest to you as it covered the period of history of the Russian revolution.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:08 pm
by Sid Bishop
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:59 pm The film has one of the most iconic scenes of all time, when Lawrence first encounters Omar Sharif in the desert. You see him riding towards Lawrence on his camel in the shimmering heat of the desert as he draws closer and closer. Brilliant film considering it's nearly 60 years old. My tip would be to see it on the big screen - if you can - rather than on TV.
Amazing theme tune as well, think I will try to see it again either on the computer if I can get it, if not buy the DVD !
Is this the scene you mean, guess it must be !
How David Lean Created Ali’s Mesmerizing Entrance | Lawrence of Arabia

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:14 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:01 pm Yes that was also a great film although for me at the time of first seeing it, I found it rather long winded.
Of course it would be of great interest to you as it covered the period of history of the Russian revolution.
Reminds me of the long winded 2001 A Space Odyssey.I did find it very long winded at the time when I was taken to the cinema by my dad roughly around when it came out now.Didn't really understand it at the time as I was very young.Now though it's an all time classic which I will never forget.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:05 pm
by Give it to Jabo
Really enjoyed the clip fro OWALW - we need some more madcap satire.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:30 pm
by Sid Bishop
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:14 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:01 pm Yes that was also a great film although for me at the time of first seeing it, I found it rather long winded.
Of course it would be of great interest to you as it covered the period of history of the Russian revolution.
Reminds me of the long winded 2001 A Space Odyssey.I did find it very long winded at the time when I was taken to the cinema by my dad roughly around when it came out now.Didn't really understand it at the time as I was very young.Now though it's an all time classic which I will never forget.
I still find '' 2001 A Space Odyssey'' rather long winded, it was on the tv a few months ago and I LOVE science fiction films and books !
Did you see the first episode on Sunday evening of the new BBC series ''War of the World's'' ?

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:39 pm
by point nine one eight
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:32 am
slacker wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:50 pm Filmed in central Seville, Spain that. Can’t be many times O’Toole ordered just a lemonade in real life...

Any particular reason for posting this up, Sid?
Thanks for your replay, as to why did I post this video, please see above post to @Chief crazy horse.
My father was named after Lawrence as his first name, I had it as my middle name my eldest son had it as his middle name as well, it could well carry on further. Brilliant film I have it on DVD

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:53 pm
by Sid Bishop
point nine one eight wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:39 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:32 am
slacker wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:50 pm Filmed in central Seville, Spain that. Can’t be many times O’Toole ordered just a lemonade in real life...

Any particular reason for posting this up, Sid?
Thanks for your replay, as to why did I post this video, please see above post to @Chief crazy horse.
My father was named after Lawrence as his first name, I had it as my middle name my eldest son had it as his middle name as well, it could well carry on further. Brilliant film I have it on DVD
Funnily enough, my middle name is ''Sydney'' and on this forum, I go under the name of the first centre half I ever saw play for the Os, the legendary ''Sid Bishop'' he was indeed a wonderful player ! Yes I have got myself interested in seeing ''Lawrence of Arabia'' again. I came across this video below comparing the real facts about Lawrence as compared to the film story. One difference is that Lawrence was considered too small at 5'5'' tall to serve in the British army, whereas, the actor who played him in the film, Peter O'Toole, was 6'2'' tall !!

History Buffs: Lawrence of Arabia

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:31 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:08 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:59 pm The film has one of the most iconic scenes of all time, when Lawrence first encounters Omar Sharif in the desert. You see him riding towards Lawrence on his camel in the shimmering heat of the desert as he draws closer and closer. Brilliant film considering it's nearly 60 years old. My tip would be to see it on the big screen - if you can - rather than on TV.
Amazing theme tune as well, think I will try to see it again either on the computer if I can get it, if not buy the DVD !
Is this the scene you mean, guess it must be !
How David Lean Created Ali’s Mesmerizing Entrance | Lawrence of Arabia
That's the one Sid! Fantastic. But I'm avoiding watching it because of the small screen. Now you've got me wanting to see the movie again. Prince Charles theatre in Leicester Square show it on occasions. I will be making enquiries when it's up next.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:22 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:30 pm
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:14 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:01 pm Yes that was also a great film although for me at the time of first seeing it, I found it rather long winded.
Of course it would be of great interest to you as it covered the period of history of the Russian revolution.
Reminds me of the long winded 2001 A Space Odyssey.I did find it very long winded at the time when I was taken to the cinema by my dad roughly around when it came out now.Didn't really understand it at the time as I was very young.Now though it's an all time classic which I will never forget.
I still find '' 2001 A Space Odyssey'' rather long winded, it was on the tv a few months ago and I LOVE science fiction films and books !
Did you see the first episode on Sunday evening of the new BBC series ''War of the World's'' ?
No I rarely watch the BBC and since Tom Cruise did War of the Worlds in a remake I've avoided it.I did like the original film,though.Those old films are classics.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:41 pm
by Lovejoy
i8ubutler wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:57 pm Peter O'Toole played for Galway at cricket fact fans.
His sister Plenty O'Toole appeared in Diamonds Are Forever.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:44 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Plenty of O Tools on this forum.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:03 pm
by Chief crazy horse
JJ O'Toole is a decent lower league midfielder.

Re: Lawrence of Arabia - officers' bar scene

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:56 pm
by Thor
It's been said by many that Ivor Big Toole