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Did anyone see this? Was there constructive dialogue?

Did wonder about the swearing myself. I hope no kids were present.

Football bantz isn't it?

He's old school.

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:58 am Was it necessary for Martin to swear a couple of times on the Q & A with Nigel and Danny. Why does he need a breaK? Surely he should be full throttle on January recruitment & looking for a new manager. He also came across as stroppy when Tisdale & Jones were suggested as managers. Contrast him to Nigel and Danny M who always come across well

Manager dying and on our 3rd Head Coach since the summer might have something to do with it.

The swearing didn't bother me and I'd even forgot that it happened. However, PW I'm not sure your argument holds water really.

Would you in a staff meeting at work swear in front of fellow workers? I doubt it as I'm sure your boss would not be impressed with such language. Regardless of what had happened in your private life, you just wouldn't do it.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:59 am Did wonder about the swearing myself. I hope no kids were present.

He does read the messageboard,then.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:22 am I did not like the laughter at times

What were they laughing about?

With Ling swearing this may be worth listening to.

It wasn’t the swearing that bothered me, it was the contempt he showed for some of the fans. They clearly have a theory how they want things to go but it was clear he had no idea who he wanted to replace Ross and just waited for people to apply for it. It’s an absolute joke that he said ‘Tisdale and Jones didn’t apply for it’ as a reason not to contact them and have a conversation.

Hopefully Martin is looking into January recruitment without the need for another manager

Well put biggsy, it's like I said yesterday, pick up.the phone and sound them out. Its poor to not try and get the best possible person you can. It's only by talking can you determine if they want the role, can we afford them and what conditions they want to work under I.e their own backroom team for example.

To sit back put a cigar in your mouth and pour yourself a coffee and wait for applications to flood in is in my opinion not good enough.

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:50 am Ling came across as stroppy & dismissive of fans. He is on £120,000 and wants a rest. He needs to find a manager & be ready for January recruitment

I think Ling should be given a permanent rest if he can’t be bothered to start the process immediately of getting in a new Manager, the status quo is not acceptable.The situation is far to cosy and is p*ssing the fans off big time, so he needs to get off the pot or start p*ssing !

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:44 am It wasn’t the swearing that bothered me, it was the contempt he showed for some of the fans. They clearly have a theory how they want things to go but it was clear he had no idea who he wanted to replace Ross and just waited for people to apply for it. It’s an absolute joke that he said ‘Tisdale and Jones didn’t apply for it’ as a reason not to contact them and have a conversation.

He should have approached Tisdale who was employed by MKDons at the time?

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:58 am Was it necessary for Martin to swear a couple of times on the Q & A with Nigel and Danny. Why does he need a breaK? Surely he should be full throttle on January recruitment & looking for a new manager. He also came across as stroppy when Tisdale & Jones were suggested as managers. Contrast him to Nigel and Danny M who always come across well

Can you quote the swears that offended you so?

I can only remember him quoting his son who said "Dad has f*cked it up".

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:32 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:44 am It wasn’t the swearing that bothered me, it was the contempt he showed for some of the fans. They clearly have a theory how they want things to go but it was clear he had no idea who he wanted to replace Ross and just waited for people to apply for it. It’s an absolute joke that he said ‘Tisdale and Jones didn’t apply for it’ as a reason not to contact them and have a conversation.

He should have approached Tisdale who was employed by MKDons at the time?

And Nathan Jones - who happened to be manager of Stoke at the time. Like Jones would consider taking a job at this level now.

If you're going to criticise Ling at least try and find a reasonable issue to complain about rather than this nonsense above.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:33 am

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:58 am Was it necessary for Martin to swear a couple of times on the Q & A with Nigel and Danny. Why does he need a breaK? Surely he should be full throttle on January recruitment & looking for a new manager. He also came across as stroppy when Tisdale & Jones were suggested as managers. Contrast him to Nigel and Danny M who always come across well

Can you quote the swears that offended you so?

I can only remember him quoting his son who said "Dad has f*cked it up".

That was SO funny

Thought Lingy was brilliant at the Q & A as the one thing we all know about
him is his honesty and he tells it as it is..
Starting the gig with a question about we should go and get Nathan Jones was
laughable in itself and that we could probably see that in Lingys expression, saying
we had the similar budget and we were the same size roughly as Luton once again
does Lingy need to answer these questions as we are not..
Whether as a player, coach, manager or a DOF, OUR club is alot better and
healthier with a character like Martin Ling in and around it..
The last management appointment proved to be a mistake but getting Justin
in was probably our best signing in recent years so these things happen..
Can't wait for next Q& A session and certainly hope Lingy is in attendance for it..

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:33 am

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:58 am Was it necessary for Martin to swear a couple of times on the Q & A with Nigel and Danny. Why does he need a breaK? Surely he should be full throttle on January recruitment & looking for a new manager. He also came across as stroppy when Tisdale & Jones were suggested as managers. Contrast him to Nigel and Danny M who always come across well

Can you quote the swears that offended you so?

I can only remember him quoting his son who said "Dad has f*cked it up".

There were several other fuckings in there.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:32 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:44 am It wasn’t the swearing that bothered me, it was the contempt he showed for some of the fans. They clearly have a theory how they want things to go but it was clear he had no idea who he wanted to replace Ross and just waited for people to apply for it. It’s an absolute joke that he said ‘Tisdale and Jones didn’t apply for it’ as a reason not to contact them and have a conversation.

He should have approached Tisdale who was employed by MKDons at the time?

I didn't say that. I'm suggesting his 'process' is sh*t. I've misremembered the names and spliced 2 parts of the interview together in my mind in hindisght but my point still stands. He said he didn't look at a couple of people because they didn't apply for the job, that suggests that he was only interested in people who applied for it. He had months to come up with a plan, the sort of manager he wanted and then shortlist a few that he wants and then look at the applications on the off chance there's some he didn't expect but no. He obviously did nothing and waited.

It's clear that the manager's position doesn't actually matter to him, as long as him and the coaches are there, that's the real power at footballing level.

I’m with Ling and others - you don’t go chasing a manager when it is widely known that we are undertaking a recruitment process to fill that role. If either of them had the slightest bit of interest, they would have registered it.

Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:47 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:32 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:44 am It wasn’t the swearing that bothered me, it was the contempt he showed for some of the fans. They clearly have a theory how they want things to go but it was clear he had no idea who he wanted to replace Ross and just waited for people to apply for it. It’s an absolute joke that he said ‘Tisdale and Jones didn’t apply for it’ as a reason not to contact them and have a conversation.

He should have approached Tisdale who was employed by MKDons at the time?

And Nathan Jones - who happened to be manager of Stoke at the time. Like Jones would consider taking a job at this level now.

If you're going to criticise Ling at least try and find a reasonable issue to complain about rather than this nonsense above.

I've explained it above. I don't need to try too hard to find something to criticise him about.

I’ve had my cv sent into places I wasn’t overly interested in before, thinking I’d see how it goes and maybe go along for an interview if nothing else cropped up in the mean time.

It’s only those jobs I had absolutely zero interest in that I wouldn’t bother with.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:02 am I’m with Ling and others - you don’t go chasing a manager when it is widely known that we are undertaking a recruitment process to fill that role. If either of them had the slightest bit of interest, they would have registered it.

Or you approach someone you've identified as the man you want, stroke his ego, talk the club up, take him over to Boston and make him feel special. Failing that, you can go through your 'process' then pick a man who got demoted from an u23 role and hasn't coached in a while, let alone manage.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:04 am I’ve had my cv sent into places I wasn’t overly interested in before, thinking I’d see how it goes and maybe go along for an interview if nothing else cropped up in the mean time.

It’s only those jobs I had absolutely zero interest in that I wouldn’t bother with.

What about if those companies headhunted you, offered you a great package, offer to take you out for lunches and made you feel like they needed you. You'd still say no? Give it a rest ffs.

You cant just approach people who are already in jobs, there's rules against that. No wonder Ling was Fing and blinding with these idiotic ideas being floated.

And assuming he does come here even though he’s not got the remotest interest in doing so, he then fucks off in 6 months time when a L1 club come knocking.