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The fans are blitzing him with fletch must go now tweets. Everywhere I look on there it’s fletch out etc. No one has any confidence in the man.

And so say all of us.

He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm And so say all of us.

Quite .

Only to be expected, Fletcher is not the proven experienced manager needed at this level required to push us forward to get promotion, more like get us relegated.

I wonder if Kent will be there next Saturday??
The only slight positive I can think of for Fletcher is that our Two First choice strikers were missing today.
That said, Kent and Nigel must be thinking, ‘have we made a mistake here’

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

How dare the fans of this club make comments or give their opinion. Without fans there is no club.

The only person who could answer that CO is Ling and I’m sure as day is night he ain’t gonna admit I’ve dropped one here, now is he?

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:49 pm Only to be expected, Fletcher is not the proven experienced manager needed at this level required to push us forward to get promotion, more like get us relegated.

100% been saying this from the start. I just think this was the cheapest option.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

It’s really small time and pathetic. Some of the language being used against Fletcher is disgusting too.

Frogger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:52 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

How dare the fans of this club make comments or give their opinion. Without fans there is no club.

Talking crap there Frogger. It's a minority of bellends going overboard at Kent, and without them we'd still have a club (and a better fanbase).

Frogger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:52 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

How dare the fans of this club make comments or give their opinion. Without fans there is no club.

Without Travis and Teague there would have been no club. They can give their opinion in a rational and calm way, not the way some people are acting

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

He knows better than most our recent history and so why we're like this . We simply can NOT afford to get relegated again back down to the National League . With Fletcher in charge that could well happen .We've just been outplayed by the worse team the league and knocked out the FA Cup by a team four divisions below us . Something is terribly wrong . Ross had bad patches but he had the same players digging in and getting results . All that fight , passion and desire Ross built in his last few games has now gone . Look at our fighting spirit against Port Vale , where has that disappeared too.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

It’s more than a club isn’t it? It’s a community, a chance to do something positive, a chance to build something where not just you and your immediate family can join in the success of, but thousands of others too. If he can get us to say the championship for example his name will live on forever in the annuals of our great club.

Whilst he’s had undoubted success in business like Nigel, he would be known within his industry, this is a global game on a scale that business does not reach. He’s building a legacy to be remembered by many and not a few.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:56 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

He knows better than most our recent history and so why we're like this . We simply can NOT afford to get relegated again back down to the National League . With Fletcher in charge that could well happen .We've just been outplayed by the worse team in League Two and been knocked out the FA Cup by a team four divisions below us . Something is terribly wrong . Ross had bad patches but he had the same players digging in and getting results . All that fight , passion and desire Ross built in his last few games has now gone . Look at our fighting spirit against Port Vale , where has that disappeared too.

Why we're like this? Don't put me and most others in the same boat as a childish, gobby and petulant minority of our fans. Some of the behaviour is totally unacceptable and I don't want to be associated with those twagheads.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:52 pm The only person who could answer that CO is Ling and I’m sure as day is night he ain’t gonna admit I’ve dropped one here, now is he?

IMO, Martin has done a great job for the club but we all make mistakes in life . He might be wondering tonight if whether he has got it wrong on this occasion . Martin should try to bring back Russell Slade to steady the ship .

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

They have no enjoyment in life .

Obviously Kent will get his fill soon enough &
try to sell up .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:56 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

He knows better than most our recent history and so why we're like this . We simply can NOT afford to get relegated again back down to the National League . With Fletcher in charge that could well happen .We've just been outplayed by the worse team the league and knocked out the FA Cup by a team four divisions below us . Something is terribly wrong . Ross had bad patches but he had the same players digging in and getting results . All that fight , passion and desire Ross built in his last few games has now gone . Look at our fighting spirit against Port Vale , where has that disappeared too.

Why can we not afford it ?

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:58 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

It’s more than a club isn’t it? It’s a community, a chance to do something positive, a chance to build something where not just you and your immediate family can join in the success of, but thousands of others too. If he can get us to say the championship for example his name will live on forever in the annuals of our great club.

Whilst he’s had undoubted success in business like Nigel, he would be known within his industry, this is a global game on a scale that business does not reach. He’s building a legacy to be remembered by many and not a few.

Sell your spare flat & your buisness to aid Kent with building this community project Thor .

Dont talk the talk with out walking the walk fella

Kent makes his social media presence well known to fans so should expect tweets in a situation like this. Although, I’m not suggesting lots of the drivel is appropriate.

Whilst I don’t condone bombarding a man with aggressive tweets if it brings him to his senses and we axe Fletcher as soon as possible I don’t mind. He’s also made it clear he reads the message boards so I think we all hope he sees these threads as well.

As he’s not always at the games or in the country it’s important he doesn’t just rely on Ling’s feedback this early on. I’m pretty sure Martin Ling won’t be telling Kent about the abuse from fans just 5 games into a tenure.

Was Nigel on the balcony today?

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:49 pm Only to be expected, Fletcher is not the proven experienced manager needed at this level required to push us forward to get promotion, more like get us relegated.

Sadly, I agree with this .

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:50 pm I wonder if Kent will be there next Saturday??
The only slight positive I can think of for Fletcher is that our Two First choice strikers were missing today.
That said, Kent and Nigel must be thinking, ‘have we made a mistake here’

Not having our two first choice strikers isn't even a slight positive . Being outfought and losing to a side further down the football pyramid than Haringey Borough is hard to swallow. TBH, if I was Nigel or Kent, tonight I would be thinking the same thing.

Look, Kent is a big boy. I'm sure he's been yelled out by people with a fair bit more clout than a few wallies on twitter. He knows football and football fans. We're an emotional, sometimes irrational bunch. He'll know in his own mind that Fletch hasn't started well. Being a man of the commercial sphere Kent will also be well aware of how important PR and presentation is and he will no doubt instruct those responsible for such things to up their game. At least I hope so because so far Fletch's reign has been dismal on that front.

Frogger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:53 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:49 pm Only to be expected, Fletcher is not the proven experienced manager needed at this level required to push us forward to get promotion, more like get us relegated.

100% been saying this from the start. I just think this was the cheapest option.

Porter says as much in the podcast "fits within the income and infrastructure"

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:16 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:56 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm He's probably wondering why he bothers with the club when we have fans bombarding him like that.

He knows better than most our recent history and so why we're like this . We simply can NOT afford to get relegated again back down to the National League . With Fletcher in charge that could well happen .We've just been outplayed by the worse team the league and knocked out the FA Cup by a team four divisions below us . Something is terribly wrong . Ross had bad patches but he had the same players digging in and getting results . All that fight , passion and desire Ross built in his last few games has now gone . Look at our fighting spirit against Port Vale , where has that disappeared too.

Why can we not afford it ?

Where do we begin...

- loss of TV money
- loss of income from away fan gates at NL vs L2
- reduction in ST income
- loss of funding for the beloved academy (leading to eventual closure)
- inability to balance the books with Hearn's ever-increasing rent charges

If we go down it'll be a blow I don't think the club will recover from