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Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:07 pm
by Orient Punxx
Hopefully it will be immaterial but please do not give this clown any money to spend in January.

Really thought we were going somewhere after Ross’ good work.

Please can we just turn the clock back to the Grimsby game and pay this plank off.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:53 pm
by Disoriented
Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:07 pm Hopefully it will be immaterial but please do not give this clown any money to spend in January.

Really thought we were going somewhere after Ross’ good work.

Please can we just turn the clock back to the Grimsby game and pay this plank off.
Wishful thinking.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:09 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
Didn't Ross get grief though?.....and it put him right off.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm
by gshaw
This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:14 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
gshaw wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?
That's the way people are looking at it now after recent disasters with Fletch.Grass is greener and all that.Probably more smokeable.Mans.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:35 pm
by Orient Punxx
Have we really got to do a Steve Davis, no win in 16 before we bale out.

His win ratio with Plymouth is now looking quite attractive.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:36 pm
by Thor
gshaw wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?
True and what happened? He asked to step down, the pressure was released and I’d say that both Ross and the team had more freedom which resulted in those massive improvements and wins. I would have still replaced him.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:08 pm
by redintheface
Sorry but Embleton was no more the long term answer than Fletcher appears to be.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:21 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Ross was never the answer to our managerial position. Credit to him for realising that and stepping down. As tough as it was he should never have been put in that position, so now after an average start with a few decent results we are stuffed with a manager who has less recent experience than Ross.

Bizarre

All we can hope for is that Fletcher is a quick learner and with the experience of every game we play gains the basic tools of his trade and gets it together before any lasting damage is done.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:26 pm
by BiggsyMalone
gshaw wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?
This.

If anything, it was worse under Ross. He’d been with that set of players for a long time before he was made manager. Fletcher has only just come in

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:27 pm
by gshaw
dOh Nut wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:21 pm Ross was never the answer to our managerial position. Credit to him for realising that and stepping down. As tough as it was he should never have been put in that position, so now after an average start with a few decent results we are stuffed with a manager who has less recent experience than Ross.

Bizarre

All we can hope for is that Fletcher is a quick learner and with the experience of every game we play gains the basic tools of his trade and gets it together before any lasting damage is done.
Sounds like he'll need to learn a bit of humility first and work with those around him to get a bit of rapport before ripping up the tactics and imposing his own ideas. Last time I heard that going on was Moyes at Man Utd and it didn't end well for him either.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:29 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:07 pm Hopefully it will be immaterial but please do not give this clown any money to spend in January.

Really thought we were going somewhere after Ross’ good work.

Please can we just turn the clock back to the Grimsby game and pay this plank off.
Would somebody who's been out of managing and coaching for so long even know who to bring in .?

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:30 pm
by Lucky7
gshaw wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?
Can’t help yourself can you guffaw

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:34 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:35 pm Have we really got to do a Steve Davis, no win in 16 before we bale out.

His win ratio with Plymouth is now looking quite attractive.
If we do another Steve Davis and don't win for 16 games then we're basically looking at being back in the National League for next season.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:38 pm
by gshaw
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:30 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?
Can’t help yourself can you guffaw
Can't stop, don't stop the beat let's go

Re: Fletch

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:24 am
by Lucky7
Thor wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:36 pm
gshaw wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm This Ross is the Messiah business is bizarre. He won a few at the end but for the rest of his tenure was hopeless and as tactically clueless as Fletcher is now. Remember Macclesfield and Swindon?
True and what happened? He asked to step down, the pressure was released and I’d say that both Ross and the team had more freedom which resulted in those massive improvements and wins. I would have still replaced him.
Remember Bromley and Salford under JE
and lots of other results that went against Orient under his tenure and the same bleaters where wanting him out

Re: Fletch

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:57 am
by Thor
Nah only numpties, Bromley was bad no doubt about it we were poor that night, but whatever bromley did came off it was just one of those games. Salford came and did a truly professional job on us that day, full credit to them. What did we have something like 75% possession and unfortunately we never held the keys to unlock their defence.

Neither is a slight on Justin, just two teams who were very effective on the day. After Salford what did we do something like 5 games without conceding and I think that was the game that won us the league cos after that we ground results out when things did not go our way, that's credit to the manager, staff and team.

Yesterday is on a whole new level of low.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:28 pm
by Thor
When RE handed over the team we were 2 points from the play offs looking up.

We are now 7 points off the play offs however, they have a game in hand on us and the team above them two games in hand.

We are 7 points off bottom looking down. In fact in the three league games Fletcher has taken only Walsall have a worse set of results over us. Worrying.

Re: Fletch

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:10 pm
by Lucky7
Thor wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:57 am Nah only numpties, Bromley was bad no doubt about it we were poor that night, but whatever bromley did came off it was just one of those games. Salford came and did a truly professional job on us that day, full credit to them. What did we have something like 75% possession and unfortunately we never held the keys to unlock their defence.

Neither is a slight on Justin, just two teams who were very effective on the day. After Salford what did we do something like 5 games without conceding and I think that was the game that won us the league cos after that we ground results out when things did not go our way, that's credit to the manager, staff and team.

Yesterday is on a whole new level of low.
Not true after Salford we lost to Maidenhead and Ebbsfleet 1-0/2-0 drew with Hartlepool 1-1 beat Wrexham and just about won against Brackley