Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:34 pm
Short term loan to Dover.
Criminal. He should have been playing here, particularly as both our mainstream strikers have been out recently.
I rate this young man a lot
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Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:37 pm
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:41 pm
I think the concensous on here is the same as you. However, the coaching team work with him daily and deem he needs game time at a level higher than he was at last season to help him progress his career. I would t disagree with their actions on this one.
Good luck Sotiriou
Good luck Sotiriou
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:53 pm
Good move. Get him playing some regular first team football against men in a lower division on a short term basis and then bring him back and put him into the squad and start giving him regular minutes. Much better than throwing him straight in.
Only issue is we should have looked to do this a month or two back, though I accept there may not have been takers at that point.
Only issue is we should have looked to do this a month or two back, though I accept there may not have been takers at that point.
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:55 pm
Out of interest, based on what?
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:55 pm
Good move for the lad. Is not ready for this level yet, but a month or maybe more at the level we were playing at last season will do him no harm at all.
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:59 pm
Yep. Going straight into the matchday squad and regular gametime now may not be ideal and potentially damage his devlopment. Better to not be reckless with him. There's nothing to lose from a bit of patience. But a lot potentially to lose from impatience.
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:00 pm
He’s not ready for this level but he will be after a month of playing in the conference? 
We have 2 cup games coming up he could have started in
We have 2 cup games coming up he could have started in
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:03 pm
Have we ever successfully developed one of our own players through the loan system?
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:04 pm
It gives him a better start by dropping down a level, regular football against grown men and getting used to that and then coming back and hitting the ground running. Fletcher probably wants to use the cup games as part of him getting to know the squad and his options formation wise. No bad thing if it helps us improve the squad in the medium or long run. I just can't see any bad reasons for sending Sotiriou out on loan.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:00 pm He’s not ready for this level but he will be after a month of playing in the conference?
We have 2 cup games coming up he could have started in
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:15 pm
Send him on a longer term deal then.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:04 pmIt gives him a better start by dropping down a level, regular football against grown men and getting used to that and then coming back and hitting the ground running. Fletcher probably wants to use the cup games as part of him getting to know the squad and his options formation wise. No bad thing if it helps us improve the squad in the medium or long run. I just can't see any bad reasons for sending Sotiriou out on loan.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:00 pm He’s not ready for this level but he will be after a month of playing in the conference?
We have 2 cup games coming up he could have started in
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:19 pm
If the objective is to get him acclimatised before we introduce him into our squad for the busy Xmas period then there's no need. Better to do that at a team a division down so it doesn't impact on our first team games.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:15 pmSend him on a longer term deal then.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:04 pmIt gives him a better start by dropping down a level, regular football against grown men and getting used to that and then coming back and hitting the ground running. Fletcher probably wants to use the cup games as part of him getting to know the squad and his options formation wise. No bad thing if it helps us improve the squad in the medium or long run. I just can't see any bad reasons for sending Sotiriou out on loan.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:00 pm He’s not ready for this level but he will be after a month of playing in the conference?
We have 2 cup games coming up he could have started in
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:23 pm
He couldn’t have played against Brighton u23s and Maldon, then come off the bench for other games? Wilkinson and Angol will be back by Christmas, his chance of getting games will be even lower. This isn’t about development, it’s about Dover needing a striker.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:19 pmIf the objective is to get him acclimatised before we introduce him into our squad for the busy Xmas period then there's no need. Better to do that at a team a division down so it doesn't impact on our first team games.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:15 pmSend him on a longer term deal then.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:04 pm
It gives him a better start by dropping down a level, regular football against grown men and getting used to that and then coming back and hitting the ground running. Fletcher probably wants to use the cup games as part of him getting to know the squad and his options formation wise. No bad thing if it helps us improve the squad in the medium or long run. I just can't see any bad reasons for sending Sotiriou out on loan.
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:30 pm
Agreed. He could and should have been getting his first team experience with us .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:37 pm Criminal. He should have been playing here, particularly as both our mainstream strikers have been out recently.
I rate this young man a lot
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:31 pm
And their getting a decent striker as well . Is Hess still Dover manager ? If so its a good move by him.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:23 pmHe couldn’t have played against Brighton u23s and Maldon, then come off the bench for other games? Wilkinson and Angol will be back by Christmas, his chance of getting games will be even lower. This isn’t about development, it’s about Dover needing a striker.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:19 pmIf the objective is to get him acclimatised before we introduce him into our squad for the busy Xmas period then there's no need. Better to do that at a team a division down so it doesn't impact on our first team games.
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:44 pm
How does this move affect whether he will be getting first team experience with us? Just because it's not happening right this minute it doesn't mean it won't in the near future. There's more to a football season or a player's development curve than only "now".RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:30 pmAgreed. He could and should have been getting his first team experience with us .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:37 pm Criminal. He should have been playing here, particularly as both our mainstream strikers have been out recently.
I rate this young man a lot
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm
Maybe as the head coach has experience in this sector in his previous role we might garner some good players from the loan market and utilise our own in that market better than we have previously.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:03 pm Have we ever successfully developed one of our own players through the loan system?
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm
Can’t recall Moses Odabajo been sent out on loan straight from the youth team to the first team
Let’s see who’s the first to say yeah but he was a different player
Poppycock you’ve ether got it or you ain’t no matter what position you play
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if there priming Sotiriou up for a January move
Let’s see who’s the first to say yeah but he was a different player
Poppycock you’ve ether got it or you ain’t no matter what position you play
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if there priming Sotiriou up for a January move
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:48 pm
Moses was loaned out to three separate clubs during his time at Orient.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm Can’t recall Moses Odabajo been sent out on loan straight from the youth team to the first team
Let’s see who’s the first to say yeah but he was a different player
Poppycock you’ve ether got it or you ain’t no matter what position you play
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if there priming Sotiriou up for a January move
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:50 pm
Name themRed_Army wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:48 pmMoses was loaned out to three separate clubs during his time at Orient.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm Can’t recall Moses Odabajo been sent out on loan straight from the youth team to the first team
Let’s see who’s the first to say yeah but he was a different player
Poppycock you’ve ether got it or you ain’t no matter what position you play
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if there priming Sotiriou up for a January move
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:53 pm
St AlbansLucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:50 pmName themRed_Army wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:48 pmMoses was loaned out to three separate clubs during his time at Orient.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm Can’t recall Moses Odabajo been sent out on loan straight from the youth team to the first team
Let’s see who’s the first to say yeah but he was a different player
Poppycock you’ve ether got it or you ain’t no matter what position you play
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if there priming Sotiriou up for a January move
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Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:54 pm
While he was still in the youth team don’t count sorry no points
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:56 pm
Always love it when a guesser has their bluff called.
As for being a different player...that would still have been a valid reason. Different players have different development curves and are on different paths depending on their level of ability and potential ceiling. There's no one size fits all approach to developing players.
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:59 pm
Jeez you sound like a social worker not a football fanSmendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:56 pmAlways love it when a guesser has their bluff called.
As for being a different player...that would still have been a valid reason. Different players have different development curves and are on different paths depending on their level of ability and potential ceiling. There's no one size fits all approach to developing players.
Get a grip
Re: Sotiriou moves on loan
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:16 pm
Lung should be ashamed. If he was a relative, this would not have happened.