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its looked a bit of a circus yesterday i didn't really see who was in charge, fletcher embleton and webb in dugout jobi on balcony communicating with ross through an earpiece. i think this will end in complete disaster i can see people walking away i put the blame on martin ling for not appointing an experience manager with a proper backroom staff

Jobi on the balcony is a good idea, wondered for years why coaching staff don't put someone in an elevated view as you see a lot more than at touchline level.

Does feel like there's one too many in that coaching team now though.

fletcher looks like he is squatting in someone else's house it really looks bad

I thought fletch had control of the technical area. Whenever I looked over he was there on his own and rarely did I see RE, DW approach him. I did wonder where Jobi was, that’s that answered then.

So let's consider, exactly how many games has Fletcher been in charge of so far? Rather too soon, I'd suggest, for any concerns and/or finger pointing.

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:02 pm So let's consider, exactly how many games has Fletcher been in charge of so far? Rather too soon, I'd suggest, for any concerns and/or finger pointing.

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:44 pm I thought fletch had control of the technical area. Whenever I looked over he was there on his own and rarely did I see RE, DW approach him. I did wonder where Jobi was, that’s that answered then.

Fletch was in conversation with RE a few times, no big deal. Why wouldn’t he talk to his number two during games? Don’t see this as being an issue.

I didn’t say they didn’t speak, my point being he had control of his technical area, it was not over crowded in my opinion whenever I looked over there.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm I didn’t say they didn’t speak, my point being he had control of his technical area, it was not over crowded in my opinion whenever I looked over there.

Relentless.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm I didn’t say they didn’t speak, my point being he had control of his technical area, it was not over crowded in my opinion whenever I looked over there.

Relentless.

Clueless

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:02 pm So let's consider, exactly how many games has Fletcher been in charge of so far? Rather too soon, I'd suggest, for any concerns and/or finger pointing.

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

Some time after 2 games........

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:02 pm So let's consider, exactly how many games has Fletcher been in charge of so far? Rather too soon, I'd suggest, for any concerns and/or finger pointing.

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

Some time after 2 games........

That sounds rather vague fella.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:18 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm I didn’t say they didn’t speak, my point being he had control of his technical area, it was not over crowded in my opinion whenever I looked over there.

Relentless.

Clueless

Pointless.

Quite frankly, one week and two games is miles too early to judge on how well Carl is going to do for us. It could be that he’s going to need a couple of new players either on loan or permanently to get the team playing the way he wants

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:02 pm So let's consider, exactly how many games has Fletcher been in charge of so far? Rather too soon, I'd suggest, for any concerns and/or finger pointing.

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

10 games.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:41 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:02 pm So let's consider, exactly how many games has Fletcher been in charge of so far? Rather too soon, I'd suggest, for any concerns and/or finger pointing.

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

10 games.

10 from now or 10 in total ?

Like any new team, staff, players, life, work, they will over time establish who does what, where they fit in etc, it's just natural

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:39 am Jobi on the balcony is a good idea.

Not as good an idea as getting him on the pitch and playing I would suggest. Giving him an extra year on his playing contract is turning out to be an expensive mistake unfortunately.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:27 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

Some time after 2 games........

That sounds rather vague fella.

Only because, as you already know, you can't define such a period exactly. I do know, however, that as it's been about a week, and 2 games, since he took over that any negative talk about his style or ability is just poppycock. Associated finger pointing at ML based on any such negative views about Fletcher also fall into that category.

essexfootball wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:49 pm Like any new team, staff, players, life, work, they will over time establish who does what, where they fit in etc, it's just natrual

Stop talking sense. You'll get nowhere on this board by talking sense!

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:45 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:41 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

10 games.

10 from now or 10 in total ?

In total roughly. He’s had about 2 days training with them (I’ve already made my feeling clear about why that was stupid). If he wants them to play like the first half every week, they’ll need to be drilled and educated.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:27 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:18 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm

Relentless.

Clueless

Pointless.

Wrong fella mate, that was admin on that show, not me.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:45 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:41 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:06 pm

When does ‘too soon’ expire in your opinion?

10 games.

10 from now or 10 in total ?

Must be 10 with 10 weeks of full training.

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:54 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:39 am Jobi on the balcony is a good idea.

Not as good an idea as getting him on the pitch and playing I would suggest. Giving him an extra year on his playing contract is turning out to be an expensive mistake unfortunately.

Indeed but I don't see him contributing on the field anytime soon sadly. Really pushed himself beyond the limit to see us through to the title last season and has paid for it since.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:20 pm

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:54 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:39 am Jobi on the balcony is a good idea.

Not as good an idea as getting him on the pitch and playing I would suggest. Giving him an extra year on his playing contract is turning out to be an expensive mistake unfortunately.

Indeed but I don't see him contributing on the field anytime soon sadly. Really pushed himself beyond the limit to see us through to the title last season and has paid for it since.

Think about all those little shots pre-season who said those of us who predicted this were doomsayers.

Where are they now?