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Shocking today.

Did a lot of pointing looking around & moaning.

Not much else i have to say

Not too bad first not great but ok. Shocking second 45. Ran out of steam.

I haven`t been impressed with him this season, but I thought he was good in the first half.

Everyone was good first half.

But Clay was particularly bad second half.

I have nothing against Craig , but his form this year is way below what i expected.
If he is injured/unfit , or just not up to it in L2 he needs to sort it out sharpish.

Cant afford passengers.

At one stage he was limping badly after a collision and I thought he would go off.

It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

Wasn't helped by being bizarrely shunted out wide left for a period in the second half.

Leave the poor bloke alone, he was pretty good in the first half, and at least he tries which is more than I can say for some!

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:21 pm It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

If he was doing any of that sucessfully i'd say fair play, thing is
He's NOT .

Booba wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:23 pm Leave the poor bloke alone, he was pretty good in the first half, and at least he tries which is more than I can say for some!

Compared to last season he's nowhere near the same level of effort and fitness. You'd see him tracking back half the pitch to make tackles back then but now he can't keep up over 20 yards let alone anything further.

Still can't gauge whether it's pace of L2 is too quick for him or whether it's injury / fitness related. Couldn't understand him staying on ahead of Marsh by the end. Neither were great but Clay looked shot.

Surprised Marsh went off instead of Clay. At least Marsh seemed to have some energy left.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:21 pm It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

This and I don’t know where other boarders were seated to watch but from our row P (up at back) of Gallery me and Mrs NES thought he had a good game.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:21 pm It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

Trouble is he didnt do either of there jobs well let alone his own.
If his job is to sit & clean up then do it .
Dont stand around pointing & moaning.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:22 pm Wasn't helped by being bizarrely shunted out wide left for a period in the second half.

When?

Didn’t even happen.

OKPete wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:38 pm Surprised Marsh went off instead of Clay. At least Marsh seemed to have some energy left.

They play in different positions.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:21 pm It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

I don’t agree entirely but I get your point.

Clays best spell with us - IMO the only time he has really played at an acceptable level - was when he had Jobi alongside him.

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:23 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:22 pm Wasn't helped by being bizarrely shunted out wide left for a period in the second half.

When?

Didn’t even happen.

You were probably still in the bar.

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:23 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:22 pm Wasn't helped by being bizarrely shunted out wide left for a period in the second half.

When?

Didn’t even happen.

Definitely happened. When Dennis came on, Brophy went up front and Wright and Clay played much wider on each side.

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:26 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:21 pm It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

I don’t agree entirely but I get your point.

Clays best spell with us - IMO the only time he has really played at an acceptable level - was when he had Jobi alongside him.

Clay was excellent all of last season, including when playing alongside Charlie Lee, long before McAnuff was starting in central midfield.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:48 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:23 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:22 pm Wasn't helped by being bizarrely shunted out wide left for a period in the second half.

When?

Didn’t even happen.

Definitely happened. When Dennis came on, Brophy went up front and Wright and Clay played much wider on each side.

Correct.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:49 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:26 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:21 pm It’s amazing how your form suffers when you have to do what Josh Wright and Joe Widdowson should be doing whilst getting forward to support and back to defend

I don’t agree entirely but I get your point.

Clays best spell with us - IMO the only time he has really played at an acceptable level - was when he had Jobi alongside him.

Clay was excellent all of last season, including when playing alongside Charlie Lee, long before McAnuff was starting in central midfield.

Correct again

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:48 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:23 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:22 pm Wasn't helped by being bizarrely shunted out wide left for a period in the second half.

When?

Didn’t even happen.

Definitely happened. When Dennis came on, Brophy went up front and Wright and Clay played much wider on each side.

He didn’t change position to out wide tho.

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:54 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:48 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:23 pm

When?

Didn’t even happen.

Definitely happened. When Dennis came on, Brophy went up front and Wright and Clay played much wider on each side.

He didn’t change position to out wide tho.

He moved into a wide midfield position, yes.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:18 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:54 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:48 pm

Definitely happened. When Dennis came on, Brophy went up front and Wright and Clay played much wider on each side.

He didn’t change position to out wide tho.

He moved into a wide midfield position, yes.

Ok.

But it didn’t happen.

I agree that because we went 4-1-2-1-2 and were so narrow he was having to go out wide when they went down the right, yes. Same with Josh on our right. But neither of them change position as such. Possibly.